This is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard of. I'm not buying any keyboard or laptop that has this key. There's enough Linux-first vendors these days that it's easy to avoid (Framework, System76, Tuxedo, etc). It's time to be done with Lenovo and Dell.
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This is the dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever heard of. I’m not buying any keyboard or laptop that has this key.
Which is exactly what people said about the Windows key.
Now it's all but impossible to buy a keyboard that doesn't have it. Worse, most of us use it without thinking.
Sure you can call it Super if you like, and even have a Tux key-cap on it, but there used to be a literal gap between the Alt keys and their Ctrl brethren in the lateral directions away from the space bar, and those days are long gone.
There'll be the niche users who stick with old keyboards without this new key, just like there are the die-hards who have stuck resolutely to the old IBM keyboards and the like from pre-1995, but if you want a new keyboard?
Gonna have to shell out a small fortune for a custom build or make do with that dumb new key.
(Shoutout to the Context Menu key which went as unmentioned in the above as it goes unused in day to day use, despite having been included with its Super cousin since day one.)
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Do people actually want this?
Like, I know the megacorps that control our lives do (since it's a cheap way of adding value to their products), but what about actual users? I think many see it as a novelty and a toy rather than a productivity tool. Especially when public awareness of "hallucinations" and the plight faced by artists rises.
Kinda feels like the whole "voice controlled assistants" bubble that happened a while ago. Sure they are relatively commonplace nowadays, but nowhere near as universal as people thought they would be.
Do people actually want this?
Absolutely not. But this is the new standard now.
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Maybe I'm a pessimist but this is going to really resonate with the people who are "looking forward to AI" because they read headlines, but haven't actually used any LLMs yet because nobody has told them how.
Not a single soul wants this. They just want to use every foul trick to get you to use copilot (by accident even) just like they do with bing and their other garbage.
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This is Clippy v2.0 and I'm sure it will be just as helpful.
They've learned from their mistakes, and concluded that Clippy failed because there was no Clippy key.
at least clippy, for all his faults, had the good sense to be a cute cartoon paperclip.
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Oh "great", more crap between Ctrl and Alt.
[Grumpy grandpa] In my times, the space row only had five keys! And we did more than those youngsters do with eight, now nine keys!
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So you can pressed accidentally activating the fucking AI and make the numbers go up so Microsoft can then go and say to investors look millions are using my AI. So annoying.
That's funny, because getting an ad for Copilot inside my startmenu was actually what made me go back to Linux after 10 years.
This tracks.
Why? Win+C launches Copilot already, if you want to use it. It's simple enough currently, why change it? This will just make everything worse.
because most people are unaware of keybindings and when they inevitable tap on the new dedicated key they'll probably be shown a subscription screen for Copilot Premium or whatever they call it.
IMO it's a very disgusting and intrusive way of fishing subscriptions to the AI thing they've invested so much money on.
Can't wait to see this gone in the next 3 years.
Really milking that fad before they inevitably push anything useful behind a monthly paywall.
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I am getting flashbacks to the multimedia keyboards on yesteryear:
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Multimedia_keyboard
Thanks MS, but no thanks, I don't need it.
I love these, it has actual useful keys
I will admit that the volume wheel was awesome
yeah, the media controls are actually useful.
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this kind of shit is what gives AI a bad rep
no one needs this
almost no one wants it
and they'll kill it in a couple of years like they did it with Cortana
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how the fuck can they just decide this
Probably through licensing agreements with PC retailers.
But you can also just decide not to buy them.
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I have nothing against the people that are working on AI and appreciate the work they do. However every time I see an article about a company using AI like this I just get the vibe that it's a bunch of middle aged men trying desperately to make things like the "future" they saw when they were a kid. I've seen amazing implementations of AI in a lot of different ways but I'm so sick of dumb ideas like this because some guy that used to watch Star Trek as a kid wants to feel like they live in the future while piggybacking on someone else's work. It's like the painted tunnel in cartoons where it looks like a real tunnel but in reality it's just a very convincing lie. And that's all that it is. Complexity does not mean sophistication when it comes to AI and never has and to treat it as such is just a forceful way to make your ideas come true without putting in the real effort.
Sorry, I had to get that out. Also I have nothing against Star Trek and I used to watch it as a kid because my parents watched it all the time.
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Please don't.
Woo-hoo! Secondary hyper modifier key - can't wait!!!
Soon we'll be able to emacs the way the developers intended.
Yay! I petition to call it Duper
Can't help but think about how Facebook inc rebranded itself to Meta to chase/promote the metaverse fad.
how could it possibly be that urgent that it needs a key dedicated to it
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Lol fuck off Microdong.
Is copilot another windows app I'll need to uninstall? Thanks for the heads up!
It should be the reason to switch to Linux, finally, again.
They're really pushing this AI shit fr
Time to buy some more of those little Tux keyboard superkey stickers :)
I'm happy as a clam with my 1984 loud as fuck IBM Model M keyboard in Windows.
Think you need a Windows key? CTRL-ESC. I use CTRL-ESC even on modern keyboards.
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As long as it’s treated like a media key and not an intrusion of the standard, then I couldn’t care less. It’s a stupid idea, but Microsoft is so often full of those.
Edit> And after reading the article…of course MS is intruding on the standard just like they did with the windows key, but at least that one was turned into “meta” or “super”. I guess this will guarantee I won’t buy another MS keyboard.
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