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[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 94 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Incidentally, both not native to Europe.

Europeans taking shit from other continents and making it theirs. It feels like there's a metaphor or something...

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

I just went through all the things I think Europe does well or is known for, and I can’t think of anything that doesn’t either originate somewhere else or has been made better elsewhere. With the exceptions of cars(which doomed us and is still debatable euro cars are the best), wine(depending on how you categorize Georgia), and olive oil. Someone correct me if I’m missing something

Edit: does French bread count?

[–] Hillock@kbin.social 28 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Watches
Pizza
Lots of musical instruments such as piano and violin
Electronic music
Gold, while it's unknown when and where exactly gold started to be mined the oldest artifacts found are from Bulgaria.
Democracy

But you will struggle coming up with examples of others countries as well. There are few countries that invented something and are still the best at. So much stuff was just invented so long ago. The only county where this is somewhat easy is the US with some technology.

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[–] neutronicturtle@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How far back does it count? Humans originate from Africa so everything we do can be seen as Africans doing things with stuff from all over the planet. Or perhaps even that is not far enough. What's the origin of the first mammal... The only contestant is change and life is good at mixing things up.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 years ago

Everything was stolen from the first amoebae in the primordial soup!

[–] SirShanova@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Depends on you define best or known for when it comes to cars. Sure a BMW is nice but a Lexus will last twice as long for a fifth the price and is good.

And bread, for invention, depends on whether or not you count leavened and unleavened separately. In terms of best, French bread is definitely S tier though.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Those were definitely my thoughts on cars, although I give Germany some credit for inventing them. And yeah bread is tough since it’s been done all across humanity, the French do it best I think but i dunno if it should count

[–] SirShanova@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, idk who invented sourdough or garlic bread but both of those should be examined as rivals. Baguette stills rocks heated and buttered though

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s either an Italian or New York Italian that invented garlic bread. Sourdough I think is Colorado but I have know idea where I heard that. But yeah you ain’t wrong

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Sourdough I think is Colorado

That may be where it became popular in the USA, but the sourdough method was widespread throughout medieval Europe.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

French bread is fine I guess, but nothing beats the Finnish rye bread when you don't want to be hungry again in 5 minutes. Also nothing beats the taste.

[–] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 2 points 2 years ago

The super thin and extra dark slices with butter and juustohöyläjuusto... Yes.

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[–] RembrandtQEinstein@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Movies, jazz, and airplanes are still tops, even if movies are shit compared to ten years ago Hollywood is still the champ money and cultural impact wise, invention can be co-claimed by the French but the largest early exposition took place in Piedmont Park in Atlanta, Ga. Boeing and Lockheed have yet to be toppled despite both having serious issues recently and there being more competition. Jazz was invented here and while it’s good elsewhere I still thing it’s better along the Mississippi. Still amongst if not the largest exporter of food too.

The US is fucked and shitty but it’s not like we don’t do anything well

Edit: added a k to the end of took

[–] SirShanova@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Large scale electrification, nuclear deterrents, continental cargo rail

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The first and last are for sure good but I think Japan has it better on the first and Europe on the third but I could be wrong. The middle one for sure but I dunno if we can count that considering we struck first and last in the nuke race

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[–] peanut_boy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

The whole world is interconnected, so it's hard to find anything that is the exclusive domain of one continent. Europeans aren't innately superior to the rest of the world, but they aren't innately inferior either. And even if they were, the idea that something only "counts" if you never interact with and learn from foreigners is a bizarre and arbitrary rule that goes against most of the important innovations throughout human history.

[–] HerrVorragend@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Steam power Industrialisation Scientific Revolution / Scientific Method

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[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 45 points 2 years ago

Northern Europe:

Southern Europe:

[–] Chadohfax@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can use exact same line for "Butter Europe/ Olive oil Europe" It was one of the many reasons for rise of Protestant movements because the Vatican wanted to classify butter as an indulgence, because olive oil was used for all the oils where they were. Butter was seen as gross and a sin.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 2 years ago

Based vegan Vatican.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

as a Ukrainian, I'm proud to confirm that we have both

[–] voidnutcracker@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But do you pronounce it tomato or tomato?

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[–] float@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago

I've been travelling a lot in Spain and I'd consider it more a potato country than a tomato one. You get tortillas and patatas bravas everywhere.

[–] Mandy@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago

Me, from austria: interesting

[–] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tomatoes are from America though

[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] neutronicturtle@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Homo sapiens also doesn't originate from Europe.

[–] psyqology@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

South America specifically.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They gave us all the good stuff besides tobacco

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[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Thus begins the Great Potatoe War. Technoblade would be proud

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago

Nightshade Europe.

[–] CarlCook@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

At least for Germany, the line lies way more to the north (and it’s rather pasta vs. potatoes).

[–] Tvkan@feddit.de 10 points 2 years ago

No part of Germany is part of Tomato Europe.

(and it’s rather pasta vs. potatoes)

That's just a different map.

[–] generalpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Facelikeapotato@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

One of us! One of us!

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