I foresee them making a comeback as more and more people realize that streaming services are terrible.
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But the people who release BRs are either the same people selling streaming subscriptions, or will be bought up by them. For example, Disney is no longer releasing BRs anymore.
Yo ho, yo ho, a pirateβs life for me.
Unless I can buy a BluRay, Iβm not paying for a movie.
Cable TV definitely phased out until streaming came alone.
What can be better than streaming for the general public? Most will just subscribe to every service anyway.
As piracy becomes easier, Iβd imagine piracy will be the best option for the general public. At least until streaming services offer a better alternative.
Keep your physical media. Don't be Charlie Brown assuming the football will be there every time.
Better yet, digitally back up your physical media in multiple locations because no media lasts forever, especially optical Media.
There are problems with physical medium as well. My father and I enjoy physical CDs, in my opinion they are the best. Yet my father's collection is over 20 years old so disks are degrading. My collection was destroyed during a house break in, they threw them on the floor and stomped on them, fucking hooligans. So I stopped with physical media such as CDs due to this
Long term storage hasnβt improved since tape drives
I heard tape drives might be making a comeback, due to increased storage capacity, like insane capacity if we use today's technology. And a lot of data we have only needs to be stored and not readily available
They already have. Huge SANs like AWS Glacial Storage use them. It lets you store comical amounts of data for like 0.0001β¬ per gb or something crazy, but access times can take up to 24 hours. This is because there are massive archival databanks, think a robotic vending machine full of tapes. Itβs actually incredibly cool technology.
I did know they are already using the technology, so it is so cool for letting me know. Yes some data you do not need to have constant access, like security footage. Maybe 20 years from now a detective asks if you still have footage from that night where the serial nipple pincher first attacked, and boom they solved the mystery and Gotham will be safe again.
They are coming back like vinyl. Zoomers are realizing streaming plarforms can pull the plug
It occurs to me that I could totally put a short movie on a vinyl record. It would display "buffering" for quite a while though.
BluRay has evolved a few times since being released. The storage capacity keeps going up, which allows for 4K & 3D discs to be made.
DVD got replaced because it couldn't hit the 1K mark. There was SuperBit DVDs, but they didn't catch on. The picture size was still limited to 720p.
BluRay still has a lot of life left in it. It will be a long time before the market demands 8K recordings. And will there even be physical media for movies and TV by then?
DVDs were also commonly used as external data storage prior to flash storage becoming the predominant method. Anyone still have their spindle of dvds with a Win XP backup lying around?
Blu-ray doesn't have that advantage. The only major commercial applications it has been used for is movies and games, and games are already breeching the size that even a 4k blu-ray can hold, and have long since required faster data transfer speeds than blu-ray is capable of(this is why even with physical games, the game has to be installed to the console)
Why not just put the movies on a SD card? The price is similar and the card is smaller. That's what games do now, right?
Retention, or the lack thereof, when cold-stored.
In term of SD or standard NAND, not even Nintendo does that. Nintendo builds Macronix XtraROM in their Game Card, which is some proprietary Flash memory with claimed 20 year cold storage retention. And they introduced the 64 GB version only after a lengthy delay, in 2020. So it seems that the (lack of) cold storage performance of standard NAND Flash is viewed by some in the industry as not ready for prime time. Macronix discussed it many years back in a DigiTimes article: https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120713PR201.html.
And Sony and Microsoft are both still building Blu-ray-based consoles.
DVDs had a maximum resolution of 576p. The Superbit DVDs by Sony were DVDs that had no extras so that they could use the entire space on the disc to maximise the bitrate. I think this was only beneficial to those with very large TVs.
Iβm guessing the eventual outcome for the niche market of people who want to own physical copies of media will be some form of flash storageβwhich seems a better option all around versus a fragile optical disk.
I'm still wondering why PC videogames weren't ever released on Blu Ray, installing 120GB off a Blu Ray is much less annoying than having to download the same amount.
That would require computers to still have Blu-ray drives as default
The norm is to download several 30, 60 or even 120GB updates afterwards. You then end up with an inconvenient DRM disc that has to be inserted for your game to run. When instead you could buy it online, download it just like you would've ended up doing and then never have to worry about damaging a Blu-ray disc.
Don't get me wrong, I love physical copies of games... But in the era of never ending updates, live service games, indie games, and games broken at launch, I definitely understand why most of us don't prefer them anymore.
I'm eagerly awaiting the demise of Blu-Ray so I can finally get use of my HD-DVD player.
Nah, HD-VMD is gonna make a big comeback I tell ya
How about those Universal Media Discs (UMDs) used on everything from the PlayStation Portable to the PlayStation Portable
Nah, you haven't experienced shrek until you've seen it the way it was intended: on the GBA.
They were a very portable way to play PlayStation
From where I sit physical media is experiencing a huge surge in popularity. So I think bluray is here to stay, and will see more usage in the coming years.
They are hardly anywhere now.. Best Buy is phasing out their remaining physical movie sections this year.
That makes sense, to be fair. Movie catalogs are more of a "long tail" product. It's not economical to stock 1000s of titles in 100s of locations, but it's a crappy shopping experience if they only have a few titles. So, even those who do still buy physical media won't frequent Best Buy for them.
I'm going to assume you understand the most basic principals of our mode of production, so I'll give you an educated guess as to when, not why, since that's the question you asked.
In 2034, if we follow the DVD timeline. However if it's the only remaining physical media used by distributors, I'd guess it lasts decades longer.
I hope we graduate (or revert, depending on how you look at it) to tape, as collectors would be better off with a medium that's built to last.
Oh D-VHS, we didn't deserve you.
Yesterday I was happy to own lots of Blurays because my internet was down.
The problem is that the market isn't there to phase them out. Streaming and digital purchases have filled in most of the consumer demand that physical media would. There may not be the market for a Blu-ray replacement the same way there was for DvD.
There is also the question of whether optical media would be the preferred medium. An SD Card may be preferred over an optical drive, especially as it is more space efficient in a lot of different types of devices.
Not until there's an 8K standard and 8K players.
I hate the DRM, and I haven't bought a single one.. But, the bitrate on BD's is higher than streaming services, so its actually better for fast action scenes (where streaming services are more likely to appear blocky)
You can stream REMUX rips if you have the bandwidth and are willing to pay for a Debrid service, and those are BluRay quality. It's possible to stream BluRay quality, it's just that the main players aren't willing to offer the service since it costs them more bandwidth and most users won't care about the difference and will complain that their shitty internet/devices can't handle it.
It's well on its way there already. Many large stores are already choosing not to sell them (Best Buy, you suck). I will always purchase the Blu-Rays though as long as I can. I would never trust my movie collection to the studios or streaming services.
Till the next upkeep phase
Disney has already killed theirs off in Australia. But at the same time most of their stuff is rubbish so I guess I'm not missing out on anything
I don't want blu-rays, I want DVD. Less anti-consumer stuff going on there (although not for lack of trying, just a bit less technical know-how at the time it was made).
I donβt want blu-rays, I want DVD
HD-DVDs were neat. More reliable, too.
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