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Was there some sort of assurance that nothing was going to happen when the contract expired, and this expectation was changed? Freenom hasn't been registering domains since Jan 1.

It's seeming a little odd to me that this is catching people with their pants down.

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[–] Rottcodd@lemmy.world 101 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Actually, I think it's amusingly perfect that the tankies were hyperfocused on conjectural threats posed by capitalists and entirely missed the much more imminent threat posed by a government.

[–] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Very true. I had to laugh when I saw lemmygrad.com

[–] eric5949@lemmy.cloudaf.site 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh they had to change? Do I need to re-defederate them under the new name?

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

lemmygrad.com is just a redirect to exploding-heads.com which is just another extremist instance at the other end of the spectrem.

According to this comment, looks like it should be defederated anyhow

[–] eric5949@lemmy.cloudaf.site 11 points 2 years ago

That comment actually makes it look more to me like nothing needs to be done. If it's just a redirect there shouldn't be anything on activitypub for lemmygrad.com, and the Nazi instance was the first one I defederated. At least, that's how I understand it I could be wrong.

[–] Tygr@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What is a tankie? First time I’m seeing it today.

[–] Silviecat44@aussie.zone 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

From wikipedia

Tankie is a pejorative label for communists and those who align with Marxism–Leninism ideology. More generally, the term "tankie" has been applied for those who express support for one-party socialist republics that are associated with Marxism–Leninism, whether contemporary or historical.

They usually praise communism and ignore the flaws and horrible practices of things like the U.S.S.R

[–] FiskFisk33@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

so a bit like holocaust deniers but on the left extreme of the spectrum

[–] gizzle@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago (6 children)

They are the best example of why left unity is bullshit. Tankies are okay with literal fascism as long as it doesn't involve a western country.

[–] Sharan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

That is mighty wrong.

[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm all about left unity. If someone makes excuses for authoritarian governments, they're not on the left. If they disagree with black lives matter, they're not on the left. If they're transphobic, they're not on the left. We leftists need to stick together and protect the most marginalised members of our community, by kicking fascists and bigots out. That's what left unity means. Good old paradox of tolerance.

[–] gizzle@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

Just because someone's beliefs don't align with yours doesn't mean they "aren't on the left".

Leftism isn't a catch all for good people.

In fact many anarchists became disillusioned with the idea of "the left", hence post-leftism.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One comment said far left, the next fascists which is the far right. I'm starting to think people are just saying a term that isn't being consistently defined.

[–] gizzle@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago

Congratulations, you have deduced that the "political compass" is nonsense

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[–] Rottcodd@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

A tankie is a communist who at least defends and often advocates for forced submission to their rule, or more broadly defends the authoritarian regimes that engage in such. It dates back to the USSR sending in tanks to crush an uprising in Hungary in 1956, and was applied to the UK communists who argued in support of the USSR.

The owners of lemmy.ml are tankies.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Someone who drives tanks to work

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

According to WHOIS, lemmy.ml is a paid domain so I don't think it will not suffer the same faith as FMHY.ml.

[–] original_ish_name@latte.isnot.coffee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Typo: I don't think it will...

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

You can edit your comments to fix them, by the way.

[–] rhythmicotter@midwest.social 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

It's very irregular for a country to take back top level domains. Even refusing to renew registrations is unheard of.

ML, tk, etc broke ground by offering free country code TLDs starting 10 years ago. This was possible until Meta sued Freenom this year for issuing domains to the majority of all sources phishing traffic.

Basically, the internet got used to getting TLDs for free, and that was great, except the issuers of said domains (African countries with not a lot of money) have no obligation and no incentive to keep doing that forever. Especially after it became a liability.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 10 points 2 years ago

Is it? Because pretty much every ccTLD is owned by their given country. They have all rights over it, but some registrars took it to themselves to issue those domains on the countries' behalf, that probably didn't even know about it way back.

Free TLDs may have been great for hobbyists, but also great for spammers, phishers and other unlawful activities. And as usual, the bad bunch killed a good thing.

If you want a good TLD, use a generic one (org, name, space, etc.) or use a ccTLD that represented by your own country.

[–] LazaroFilm@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Wouldn’t be surprised if they had a monetary incentive provided by a company cough Meta to do so.

Edit: or leaked user info as an incentive.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Basically, the internet got used to getting TLDs for free

That's a very general statement.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When's the last time you saw a government sieze a TLD?

[–] Alto@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

.ga earlier this year I believe

[–] SlovenianSocket@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They didn’t seize it. .ml TLD was contracted for 10 years to some Dutch dude. That contract expired on the 17th

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[–] 1bluepixel@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why is lemmy.ml still running, though?

[–] dot20@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Nobody really knows, but there are two theories floating around:

  • The Lemmy devs paid for their domain
  • Their DNS entries are still cached and it will stop working tomorrow
[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Why is it surprising that a ccTLD is reclaimed by their own designated country? Same with .vu and .tk

vu: https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/vu.html

tk: https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/tk.html

ml: https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/ml.html

[–] SlovenianSocket@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Both .tk and .vu are free to use by anyone with minimal restrictions. Paid .tk & .vu domains have no restrictions

[–] FlashPossum@fedia.io 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A contract expiring and not being renewed is nothing unusual. But it doesn't automatically mean revocation of all domain names. If A gives B a contract to manage resources and you as C sign a contract with B who is acting in the name A, it doesn't automatically dissappear if A and B break their arrangement.

Any lawyers to pitch in to confirm if works like that?

It's common courtesy and maybe a legal obligation to announce such intentions.

[–] hypelightfly@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

C didn't sign a contract with B. B let C use A's property for free while B was managing it. The only contract was between A and B for managing their property.

Using a free TLD for anything you wanted to stick around was a terrible idea in the first place.

[–] mcesh@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

The even bigger/more hilarious part of this IMO is how millions of emails meant to go to the US defense department - .mil - ended up going to Mali - .ml - because of typos. The Dutch company that up til now managed .ml has been trying to get the military to respond but no luck, and I think they had to hand everything over to Mali — which is closely aligned w Russia…

[–] draagon 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For anyone looking for alternatives, I think this list is the most up to date: https://free-for.life/#/?id=domains

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That is a dangerous host name, none of those things are free for life at all

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just realized your username is emojis... I'm surprised that's possible.

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Its their display name that is emojis, I haven't actually tried registering a username of emojis on Lemmy but I suspect you can't since each time I've seen emojis it was a display name instead.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I gotcha... I forgot you could do a separate "display name" here since I've only noticed it on a few accounts.

Thanks!

[–] m3adow@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

eu.org

Ah nice. I used to use them ages ago. Nice to see the service still exists.

[–] blakcod@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

Wonder when .co will go back to Colombia?

[–] Today@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

There was also news today about a change in Mali that affected US military emails that were sent to .ml instead of .mil. I didn't read the whole article so I don't know if that was real or clickbait.

[–] phillycodehound@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago
[–] On@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

lemmy.ml is still working. is it not?

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