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Image is of legal adviser to Israel's foreign ministry Tal Becker and British jurist Malcolm Shaw at the ICJ hearing.


The ICJ case against Israel might not achieve much for the Palestinian cause directly, given that Israeli politicians have explicitly stated that the Hague will not stop them - and I believe them. The Resistance will be what stops them, and they are doing quite well for themselves. Hezbollah has hit highly sensitive and important Israeli military sites over the last couple weeks, and in general persist in several border attacks every day. The battles in Iraq and Syria also continue. Hamas remains largely intact, and is successfully forcing Israeli forces in the northern Gaza Strip to retreat, and other parts of the Gazan Resistance are continuing to battle down in Khan Yunis. And, last but not least, Yemen is firmly dedicated to the blockade, warding off another ship literally minutes before I started writing this paragraph.

What the ICJ is battling over isn't Palestine and Israel - not really - but the legitimacy of international law itself, and to what degree victimized countries can rely on it to solve problems, versus needing to take more militant routes for justice. In a weird sense, it might be an L for Israel either way. If international law sides with Palestine, then when Israel refuses to stop, it will invalidate international law. If international law sides with Israel, then it will invalidate international law. There is no conceivable way for the West to come out of this looking good.

The South African portion detailing Israeli atrocities against Gaza was largely ignored by the western media. They have instead, obviously, decided to focus on the Israeli portion. Their defense appears to amount to "We didn't do it, Hamas did it. And if we did do it, it doesn't matter, because that's just urban warfare for you. Please get this whole thing thrown out on a very dubious technicality so we don't have to advance to the next stage."

From Craig Murray, who has been physically going to the Hague:

It is important to realise this. Israel is hoping to win on their procedural points about existence of dispute, unilateral assurances and jurisdiction. The obvious nonsense they spoke about the damage to homes and infrastructure being caused by Hamas, trucks entering Gaza and casualty figures, was not serious. They did not expect the judges to believe any of this. The procedural points were for the court. The rest was mass propaganda for the media.

...I am sure the judges want to get out of this and they may go for the procedural points. But there is a real problem with Israel’s “no dispute” argument. If accepted, it would mean that a country committing genocide can simply not reply to a challenge, and then legal action will not be possible because no reply means “no dispute”. I hope that absurdity is obvious to the judges. But they may of course wish not to notice it…

What do I think will happen? Some sort of “compromise”. The judges will issue provisional measures different to South Africa’s request, asking Israel to continue to take measures to protect the civilian population, or some such guff. Doubtless the State Department have drafted something like this for President of the court Donoghoe already.

I hope I am wrong. I would hate to give up on international law. One thing I do know for certain. These two days in the Hague were absolutely crucial for deciding if there is any meaning left in notions of international law and human rights. I still believe action by the court could cause the US and UK to back off and provide some measure of relief. For now, let us all pray or wish, each in our way, for the children of Gaza.


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Israel-Palestine Conflict

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Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon. - Telegram is @IbnRiad.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis. - Telegram is @EyesOnSouth.
English-language Twitter account in the same group as the previous two. - Telegram here.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.

Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Sources:

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful. Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Tragic fire at boarding school in Henan

A fire in a school dormitory in central China killed 13 students and injured another person, Chinese state media reported on Saturday.

The fire broke out on Friday night at Yingcai School in Yanshanpu Village, near Nanyang City in Henan province, China Central Television Station and Xinhua News Agency said.

Firefighters quickly extinguished the blaze, and the head of the school was taken into custody, the reports said.

If this was the result of negligence that school head is going to have a very bad time.

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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

Last musing of the day: have any of the dipshit new atheists followed through on israel biblical rhetoric? Or silly little books moniker is reserved only for enemies of the state? *Ive looked through richard dawkins feed, nothing there, aside from march against anti-semitism, amazing bruh

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

And speaking of loser Uyghur separatists, guess who our favorite mediocre basketball player met with: https://nitter.cz/EnesFreedom/status/1746924461633208804

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago

China proposes Brazil unite PAC with Belt and Road Initiative investments

Wang Yi advocated more openness, inclusion and cooperation between the two government programs

China intends to unite the works of the new PAC (Growth Acceleration Program), relaunched last year by President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, with the international investments of the Belt and Road initiative, known as the new Silk Road. The proposal was brought to Brasilia by Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi.

Speaking at the Itamaraty Palace on Friday, Wang Yi suggested that the governments of Brazil and China should work together to bring the objectives "between the Belt and Road initiative and Brazil's PAC" closer together.

Wang Yi advocated more openness, inclusion and cooperation between the two government programs and mentioned that Sino-Brazilian partnerships include soybeans and space exploration. According to him, there is interest in greater agricultural cooperation, in the green economy, digital economy, artificial intelligence and other areas.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Random brain takes: india will born a new socialism and/or fascism in the next 20 years:

blue-check Peasant population

blue-check Legacy of being looted by empire

blue-check Racism (with inbuilt caste shenanigans)

blue-check Climate change

blue-check Unflattering china comparison

blue-check No colonies

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[–] Tervell@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

not news exactly, but interesting article (well, excerpt from a book) with some insight on the Ukraine war, and more broadly about the difference between the Soviet/Russian and Western approaches to war (archived)

The Russian Art of War: How the West Led Ukraine to Defeat

Throughout the Cold War period, the Soviet Union saw itself as the spearhead of a historical struggle that would lead to a confrontation between the “capitalist” system and “progressive forces.” This perception of a permanent and inescapable war led the Soviets to study war in a quasi-scientific way, and to structure this thinking into an architecture of military thought that has no equal in the Western world. The problem with the vast majority of our so-called military experts is their inability to understand the Russian approach to war. It is the result of an approach we have already seen in waves of terrorist attacks—the adversary is so stupidly demonized that we refrain from understanding his way of thinking. As a result, we are unable to develop strategies, articulate our forces, or even equip them for the realities of war. The corollary of this approach is that our frustrations are translated by unscrupulous media into a narrative that feeds hatred and increases our vulnerability. We are thus unable to find rational, effective solutions to the problem.

The way Russians understand conflict is holistic. In other words, they see the processes that develop and lead to the situation at any given moment. ... The reason the Russians are better than the West in Ukraine is that they see the conflict as a process; whereas we see it as a series of separate actions. ... That is why we place the start of the conflict on February 24, 2022, or the start of the Palestinian conflict on October 7, 2023. We ignore the contexts that bother us and wage conflicts we do not understand.

Correlation of Forces

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This [holistic] approach is materialized by the concept of “correlation of forces” (Соотношение сил). Often translated as “balance of forces” or “ratio of forces,” this concept is only understood by Westerners as a quantitative quantity, limited to the military domain. In Soviet thinking, however, the correlation of forces reflected a more holistic reading of war:

  • In the economic sphere, the factors usually compared are gross national product per capita, labor productivity, the dynamics of economic growth, the level of industrial production, particularly in high-tech sectors, the technical infrastructure of the production tool, the resources and degree of qualification of the workforce, the number of specialists and the level of development of theoretical and applied sciences.
  • In the military field, the factors compared are the quantity and quality of armaments, the firepower of the armed forces, the fighting and moral qualities of the soldiers, the level of staff training, the organization of the troops and their combat experience, the character of the military doctrine and the methods of strategic, operative and tactical thinking.
  • In the political sphere, the factors that come into consideration are the breadth of the social base of state authority, its organization, the constitutional procedure for relations between the government and legislative bodies, the ability to take operational decisions, and the degree and character of popular support for domestic and foreign policy.
  • Finally, when assessing the strength of the international movement, the factors taken into consideration are its quantitative composition, its influence with the masses, its position in the political life of each country, the principles and norms of relations between its components and the degree of their cohesion.

In other words, the assessment of the situation is not limited to the balance of forces on the battlefield, but takes into account all the elements that have an impact on the evolution of the conflict. Thus, for their Special Military Operation, the Russian authorities had planned to support the war effort through the economy, without moving to a “war economy” regimen. Thus, unlike in Ukraine, there was no interruption in the tax and welfare mechanisms. ... The inclusion of the correlation of forces in the decision-making process is a fundamental difference from Western decision-making processes, which are linked more to a policy of communication than to a rational approach to problems. This explains, for example, Russia’s limited objectives in the Ukraine, where it does not seek to occupy the entire territory, as the correlation of forces in the western part of the country would be unfavorable.

Consider all the factors that directly or indirectly influence the conflict. Conversely, as we have seen in Ukraine and elsewhere, Westerners have a much more political reading of the war, and end up mixing the two. This is why communication plays such an essential role in the conduct of war: the perception of the conflict plays an almost more important role than its reality. This is why, in Iraq, the Americans literally invented episodes that glorified their troops.

the The Special Military Operation in Ukraine section has an overview of the events leading up to the war, going over the initial events in 2014 and subsequent Ukrainian aggression, but it's pretty long so I'm not going to directly quote here

The Objectives and Strategy of Russia

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The problem is that our “experts” themselves define Russia’s objectives according to what they imagine, only to be able to say that it has not achieved them. So. Let us get back to the facts. On February 24, 2022, Russia launched its “Special Military Operation” (SMO) in Ukraine “at short notice.” In his televised address, Vladimir Putin explained that its strategic objective was to protect the population of Donbass. This objective can be broken down into two parts: “demilitarize” the Ukrainian armed forces regrouped in the Donbass in preparation for the offensive against the DPR and LPR; and “denazify” (i.e. “neutralize”) the ultra-nationalist and neo-Nazi paramilitary militias in the Mariupol area.

The formulation chosen by Vladimir Putin has been very poorly analyzed in the West. It is inspired by the 1945 Potsdam Declaration, which envisaged the development of defeated Germany according to four principles: demilitarization, denazification, democratization and decentralization. The Russians understand war from a Clausewitzian perspective: war is the pursuit of politics by other means. This then means that they seek to transform operational successes into strategic successes, and military successes into political objectives. So, while the demilitarization evoked by Putin is clearly linked to the military threat to the populations of the Donbass in application of the decree of March 24, 2021, signed by Zelensky ... this objective conceals a second: the neutralization of Ukraine as a future NATO member. ... Zelensky’s proposal served as the basis for the Istanbul Communiqué of March 29, 2022, a ceasefire agreement as a prelude to a peace agreement. ... In essence, Russia agreed to withdraw to the borders of February 23, 2022, in exchange for a ceiling on Ukrainian forces and a commitment not to become a NATO member, along with security guarantees from a number of countries…. Two conclusions can be drawn:

  • Russia’s objective was not to conquer territory. If the West had not intervened to push Zelensky to withdraw his offer, Ukraine would probably still have its army.
  • While the Russians intervened to ensure the security and protection of the population of the Donbass, their SMO enabled them to achieve a broader objective, which involves Russia’s security.

The problem is that Ukrainian and Western analysis is fueled by their own narratives. The conviction that Russia will lose has meant that no alternative contingency has been prepared. In September 2023, the West, beginning to see the collapse of this narrative and its implementation, tried to move towards a “freeze” in the conflict, without taking into account the opinion of the Russians, who dominate on the ground. Yet Russia would have been satisfied with a situation such as that proposed by Zelensky in March 2022. What the West wants in September 2023 is merely a pause until an even more violent conflict breaks out, after Ukrainian forces have been rearmed and reconstituted.

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (6 children)
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[–] companero@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Interesting things going on with Russian strikes in Ukraine today.

The timeline as I understand it:

  1. NATO and member states send five surveillance planes to southern Ukrainian border
  2. Ukraine reports threat of enemy "aviation weapons"
  3. NATO planes start leaving the area
  4. Ukraine reports large scale Russian drone attack on southern Ukraine (at least 5 "groups" of drones)

Notably, and if I understand correctly, the NATO planes started heading to Ukraine before there was any air raid alert, and didn't stick around for the big drone attack.

[–] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly if I was a ship captain going through the red sea I would put "related to israel attack please" in the description just so I can do Khat with the houthmies

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[–] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So how could things potentially escalate from here? I guess there's potential for war with Iran, but how and why? Retaliation for strikes in Iraq? Does the US escalate against Yemen?

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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Look I'm not a Taylor Swift fan, but Taylor Swift has been providing some great laughs these past couple years. First the Swiftie-Cumtown-Ice Spice crossover arc, and now for some reason becoming the next front in the culture wars. Honestly respect. Seeing a bunch of macho chuds get up in arms about some celebrity relationship like a bunch of middle school girls has been very funny to me. Maybe because she had the audacity to get involved in the sacred sport of American football? I have no idea, but it's funny regardless.

I really hope her and Travis stay together long enough for her to do the halftime show next year or something. That'd be the icing on the cake.

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[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

@Bnova@hexbear.net Made a comment in the last thread about Biden failing his promise of "Return to Normal" now that he's causing so much chaos.

Unfortunately, being a bloodthirsty warmonger is normal for the US. amerikkka

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[–] italktothewind@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britains-conservatives-set-1997-style-election-defeat-poll-2024-01-15/

Britain's Conservatives set for 1997-style election defeat, poll predicts

and just like '97 the "opposition" is running on pretty much the same platform the Tories will

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (6 children)

this move by Iran was absolutly Brilliant , have you seen the Footage .. how she just comes down like a hammer , vertically ,.. BadaBoom.. made it pretty cleare to any observer that Iron dome and Co. will not do much against that shit... and the silence is really deafing ,.. Even John Bolt might get second thought about that ... And if you want to do serious Military analysis (Old Fashioned i Know) .. those US bases , they are basiclly just ships in a foreign sea , that they (beeing bombed from it periodiclly ) . not really controll .. Iran can sink those "ships" if it chooses to... in a 2 hour span .. what could the USA do ? what ever airfield they start from , they can not return to ..

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

POV of a ~~carrier~~ cargo ship getting owned by a Yemeni missile: https://nitter.cz/revolutionaryem/status/1748462226707472712

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[–] Al_Sham@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago

"In a terrorist act, IRGC Colonel Hossein Ali Javadanfar, an officer at the Salman Corps of Sistan and Baluchistan Province, was shot and martyred on the Khash-Zahedan road. Iran Press/ Iran news: In a terrorist attack, on Wednesday, an officer of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) was martyred in the country’s southeast.

Colonel Hossein-Ali Javdanfar was shot and martyred in Iran’s Sistan-Baluchistan province, it is stated that efforts are underway to identify the attackers."

Iran Press

[–] cheese@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Pakistan strikes terrorist hideouts in Iran after airspace violation by Tehran.

“Over the last several years, in our engagements with Iran, Pakistan has consistently shared its serious concerns about the safe havens and sanctuaries enjoyed by Pakistani origin terrorists calling themselves Sarmachars on the ungoverned spaces inside Iran. Pakistan also shared multiple dossiers with concrete evidence of the presence and activities of these terrorists,” the statement on Thursday morning said.

“However, because of lack of action on our serious concerns, these so-called Sarmachars continued to spill the blood of innocent Pakistanis with impunity. This morning’s action was taken in light of credible intelligence of impending large-scale terrorist activities by these so called Sarmachars.

“This action is a manifestation of Pakistan’s unflinching resolve to protect and defend its national security against all threats. The successful execution of this highly complex operation is also a testimony to the professionalism of the Pakistan Armed Forces.”

“Pakistan will continue to take all necessary steps to preserve the safety and security of its people which is sacrosanct, inviolable and sacred,” said MOFA.

The statement stressed that Pakistan “fully respects the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Islamic Republic of Iran”, adding “the sole objective of today’s act was in pursuit of Pakistan’s own security and national interest which is paramount and cannot be compromised”.

“As a responsible member of the international community, Pakistan upholds the principles and purposes of the UN Charter including territorial integrity and sovereignty of member states. Guided by these principles, and in exercise of our legitimate rights within international law, Pakistan will never allow its sovereignty and territorial integrity to be challenged, under any pretext or circumstances.

Iran is a brotherly country and the people of Pakistan have great respect and affection for the Iranian people. We have always emphasised dialogue and cooperation in confronting common challenges including the menace of terrorism and will continue to endeavour to find joint solutions.“

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