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What purpose does American cheese serve? What problem does it solve?

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[–] TheOneCurly@lemmy.theonecurly.page 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Melting without breaking. It's cheese and emulsifier mixed together so the oils don't separate out. People often use egg for the same reason when making cheese sauces.

[–] turtlepower@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

It was developed specifically to melt perfectly on burgers. As a cheese enjoyer I'll tell you, American cheese is not bad, but it's only good for two things: on burgers, and in grilled cheese sandwiches paired with tomato soup. Anyone that's so snobbish as to not recognize these uses, is not fit to dine on the cheese they're so full of.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nile Red recently made some Kraft singles style cheese. It's not plastic, y'all.

It just melts easier without separating. If you melt straight cheddar, you end up with a fuckton of oil floating on top and it's generally not very good as a sauce by itself. Singles are basically just a cheese bechamel sauce that can solidify for shelf stability

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I find funny about this "it's plastic!" claim* is that it's... arguably correct. Except that by that definition every single type of cheese would be a plastic.

At the end of the day, a "plastic" is any synthetic material that is made from a polymer, that you can shape or mould into an object. And while casein (main component of cheese) might be quite complex, as proteins typically are, when it comes to cheesemaking you can simply see it as a proline polymer with some junk added it.

*or a similar claim that I see often in Brazil, regarding a local cheese (queijo prato) being plastic too.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue is that "plastic" has multiple meanings.

Cheese is plastic the property.

Cheese is not plastic the oil product.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, it does have multiple meanings. That's why I said "arguably".

When people say "it's plastic!", they're usually conveying that it's made from inedible stuff, I'm aware that they don't mean "it's made from a polymerised substance that has been moulded while it still had some plasticity".


It's a bit of off-topic but your comment made me realise that it's theoretically possible to create cheese out of petroleum, air, and salt. It would be expensive and awful-tasting, but probably edible?

I might do the synthesis route of that just for fun.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

It might no even taste awful. Petroleum has a lot of interesting compounds that you could probably convert into flavor molecules if you could isolate them. This isn't an endorsement of the practice, but chemistry is pretty cool.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It melts very smoothly, so it's great for cheeseburgers, Mac and cheese, and other melty dishes. Adding a little American cheese will allow other cheeses to melt smoother too!

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's just the sodium citrate. You can order that stuff and make any cheese melt nicely with just a little bit of it thrown in. You don't have to mix American cheese in to make nice melty cheese. I now make a delicious queso (a decent copy of the one from Moe's), and another similar recipe but instead of pepper jack and cheddar I use Monterey and cheddar and add rosemary. Spreads great cold on crackers like a Brie would. American cheese would not pair well with either of these.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Aight, lets set some terms.

A lot of what people call American cheese, isn't. But the term has become used for anything yellow and in a package, despite there being regulations about what is and isn't allowed to be called cheese.

So I'm not going to waste time covering all of that, and I'll focus on the versions that are cheese, or at least were at one point.

So, waaaaay back, long before processed cheese was a thing, American cheese existed in other usages. As far back as colonial days, "American" cheese was just the term the English used for cheddars or other cheeses made in the colonies that also existed in England.

Time passes, and it turns out that American cheese makers grew in skill and range. But there was still "American" cheese. This was usually a form of mild cheddar, often uncolored. You can still find that kind of cheese, if you don't mind it being called mild white cheddar.

So, some bright lads in Switzerland were looking for a way in the early 1900s to make cheese more shelf stable. They were not the only ones, but they were the first. They used ementhal.

Here in the states, James Kraft was working on the same thing, but found a different way there, and using a different base cheese. That base cheese? A mild cheddar.

Essentially, the process in "processed cheese" is taking actual cheese, heating it, stirring it, and adding an emulsifer. That's it. The process just takes regular cheese and makes it both shelf stable, and smoother.

Essentially, when you make any given cheese sauce for something like homemade mac n cheese, and you use flour as the emulsifier, you're doing the same thing to it. It isn't as shelf stable, obviously, but you're processing the cheese.

So, Kraft not only made shelf stable cheese, he did it using "waste" cheese. When you're cutting cheese up for shipping and sale, you end up with little chunks and slivers that are not saleable as they are.

This meant that Kraft's process was inexpensive to produce overall, though it did eventually stop being made of only waste cheese. That led to what's still called "government cheese". It was literally given out by the government in various ways.

Now, the ugly side of things.

Even cheese waste is more expensive than oil and chemicals. So the Kraft company (and pretty much every other mass cheese making company) started fucking with it. Adding in more than just cheese, emulsifiers, and stabilizers. There's shit on the market that gets labeled now as "American slices". But that shit ain't cheese any more than vegan cheese is. That gradual race to the bottom by international conglomerates looking to give as little value in their products as possible fucked up the "American cheese" goodness.

And the original processed cheese was a boon. Shelf stable even without refrigeration, well blended for use in multiple applications, and meeting a bare minimum of flavor requirements. It's the shit that came later that developed the reputation that tarnished all processed cheeses.

If you go shopping, you can still find real cheese that's been processed. Look at the label. It should have nothing but cheese, sodium citrate (or a similar chemical) and maybe something like tocopherol (aka vitamin e) as a preservative. That's it. That's all the good stuff has. There may be annato listed as a colorant, since that's how many cheeses are made yellow.

Typically, you'll only find it in the form of a blend of cheddar and Colby, selected for a mild flavor and easy, consistent melting. Salt levels can be higher than with an unprocessed cheese, so check for that if you're sodium restricted.

But what purpose does it serve? The same as any cheese. It just does it while melting in a smooth, homogeneous way, and lasts longer without going bad

It can also reduce waste, though it has become a product in such demand that chest is produced in quantity just for processing. But there are smaller dairies that process their own out of waste pieces. My uncle used to do so, though after he retired, my cousin took the farm a different way and reduced the things they sell, so he only supplies the family now .

The problem processing solves has already been covered, but I'll sum it up again. It solves shelf stability as the primary, with melting ease being a secondary benefit. The process using heat means that the cheese is pasteurized when it's finished. So it can sit for very long times compared to unprocessed cheese, and even longer than that refrigerated (which also extends unprocessed cheese life)

Refrigeration does solve storage life for unprocessed cheese as well. And, it is dead simple to add emulsifiers when cooking, so the melty factor isn't as big a deal as it used to be.

It is also a very good option when you want a mild, even, predictable taste.

So, check your labels. Make sure you're getting actual processed cheese rather than "cheese food" or (gods forbid) "american slices". That being said, "cheese food" is still mostly cheese, and the rest is typically going to include more dairy products than other things . Those shitty "slices" have no cheese at all, and are not allowed to call themselves cheese here in the US.

Now, this is already long, and there's going to be some short attention span asshole complaining about it.

But let me finish with a fact. All cheese is processed. Period. The only differences are in exactly what processes are used. You take milk, and you use chemicals (be they sourced from something "naturally", or via a lab) to change that milk. Rennet isn't exactly dripping from trees, ya know. It is not somehow superior to sodium citrate by virtue of originally being taken from calf stomachs.

Oh, you didn't know that's how cheese is made? Yeah. Back before labs, rennet was a side product of calf processing. But no matter what's used to do it, you can't make cheese without curds. And making curds means curdling milk. Which is inherently a chemical process.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I really didn't think I'd be reading such a good write-up on cheese, but that you for that!

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (9 children)

What are the worst offenders that we should be looking out for? Anything with Pasteurized Prepared Cheese Product? "American Slices"?

Do these things even have cheese at all? Or is it all just textured vegetable oil?

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Excellent writeup!

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I get (I'm not from USA nor Switzerland), it's simply a cheese derivative. Originally developed in Switzerland by two guys trying to increase the shelf life of Emmenthal through sodium citrate.

People using it nowadays might be doing it for a thousand reasons, such as being easier to melt, easier emulsification (that's convenient for fondue), or perhaps because it's cheaper.

I personally don't use it because I don't see the point*, given that the prices locally are comparable to cheese, and I like traditional cheeses better. That said I don't see any big deal against it.

*for fondue and cheese sauces: squeeze some lime juice in it and here we go. You're actually adding citric acid instead of sodium citrate, but given its buffer effect the difference is not a big deal.

[–] fogstormberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

is that lime juice in non-american cheeses to get american cheese-like properties? I don't need an excuse to add lime juice to anything I'm just trying to understand

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

Yup. It's to prevent the fondue or cheese sauce from splitting. It'll also give it some citrus flavour but IMO that's a bonus.

[–] 474D@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

It's very convenient and tastes good enough. Simple as that.

[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago
  • It's cheaper to make because it contains more water, while still vaguely tasting like an aged cheese.

  • It melts consistently and evenly

That's about it. It makes a good mix in for things like queso or fondue, because the melting salts they use to make it will stabilize the mixture quite well, and the real cheese yih use will be the flavor.

Other than that, there is no point, unless you can't afford real cheese.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago

American cheese is the best cheese for a cheeseburger because it melts without splitting!

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's just a simple Google search. I browsed this link & it seems acceptable enough. I also learned something new along the way: American cheese was formulated, discovered in Switzerland.

TL;DR Long shelf life cheese, exceptionally good for military purposes, some people somehow prefer it or get nostalgic for it.

[–] sramder@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Great article.

That being said, Five Guys’ Kraft American cheese isn’t the same as the Kraft singles you can pick up at your local grocery store; it contains a higher percentage of cheddar cheese and butter, giving it that same craveable melt paired with the punch of saltiness from cheddar.

Sneaky bastards! I knew they had a secret ;-)

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It makes Americans feel like they've contributed to the global gastronomy.

[–] Papergeist@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

James Kraft was born in Canada, moved to the US in 1902 and invented the cheese in 1903.

I dunno, I don't think it's long enough to count. That shit is Canadian.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He knew full well Canada wouldn't let this fly. He had to be in the United States to spawn this.

[–] Papergeist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Lol yea you gotta point.

[–] baconisaveg@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Everyone always asks why is American cheese, but never how is American cheese.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago
[–] survivalmachine@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Frankly, it's just a superior cheese for quite a lot of things.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Taiwanese breakfast food.

Those brilliant bastards made me buy american cheese, on purpose, to eat.

Danbing is made with a chewy rice flour crepe, very thin. Crack an egg on a frying pan. Break the yolk with chopsticks and swirl a bit. Mixed but still distinct, not scrambled. Put the crepe on top. Fry the egg a bit. Flip. Put american cheese on top of the egg. Let the crepe side cook a bit while the 'cheese' starts to melt. Roll it up. Slice the roll so the cross section is 3 spirals of chewy crepe, fried egg and melted cheese. Eat by the slice.

I don't know why american cheese makes it better but it really does. Real actual cheese that's good just isn't as good for danbing.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

American cheese is good for melting, either in hot sandwich-like dishes, or as a sauce additive. If it melts, american cheese will probably be nice in it.

[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

American cheese is amazing when melted. I like it in scrambled eggs and on pizza. I put it on bread with ranch and Buffalo sauce, stick it under the broiler until it browns. It solves the problem of something quick and delicious to eat.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All of those things sound gross but to each their own.

But you seriously aren't going to mention a plain old cheeseburger? The one thing American cheese is truly meant for?

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] fprawn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It makes more sense if you think of it as a congealed cheese based sauce, and not as cheese. It’s not cheese, but when melted can be delicious.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Surplus of bodily fluids extracted by capital from suffering creatures with cruelty and violence.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

It’s a food, it satiates hunger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aGNAxN5Z-o

Based on this video, it looks like it is a way to turn a certain amount of cheese into a larger quantity of cheaper cheese product.

[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cheap, mass-produced cheese. That is its purpose. It is considered inferior quality by many countries. I like to take slices and put them on my face. That is another purpose.

[–] sramder@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

But do you make eye-holes in the slices first?

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