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Happened to me a few days ago, and I just can't believe how bad this redesign is!!

It's hard to comprehend what goes into the heads of that dev team, but they basically ruined everything nice about the platform. The API changes were pretty much a fatal shot already, but this new redesign seems to be what tipped the scales for me, and hopefully many more.

It's a great time to switch to Lemmy, and I think I'm going to make the effort to stick around and abandon the habit of opening reddit multiple times per day.

Do you think forcing this re-design will bring more people here? I'm hoping for that. Reddit betrayed us and I can't find it me to keep forgiving them for every horrible, anti-user decision.

I noticed in some moderator subreddit, that it is planned to kill new.reddit.com as well. Old will likely stay for longer, but new is what I got used to, and if they take it down I won't bother getting used to the newer, garbage UX.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 146 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As an ex-redditor, my only reaction is kekw

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 145 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy users talking to Reddit users.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The hurdle is content. Lemmy has an overflow of politics and mindless memes, but it needs to have more content beyond that to attract people in.

Everyone who wants Lemmy to succeed should give redditors a reason to stay by posting in some of the smaller and more niche communities.

[–] Sebastrion@leminal.space 14 points 1 year ago

The Gaming Comunitys on lemmy are also alright.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yet without an audience, it's just people posting into the void.

I think we need to accept that we aren't going to become Reddit pt. 2 anytime soon. Smaller steps might be a good way to go - e.g. if a small sub dedicated to a single game is too small, then post in a medium level one like its genre.

But also, the main reason I stopped recommending the Fediverse to people - well aside from the fact that nobody was listening:-P - wasn't just lack of content, and instead mainly bc there are so very many technical glitches. I eventually left Kbin entirely bc it never seemed to progress anywhere, but everywhere I've gone on Lemmy, while it has been better, is still far from perfect. For instance, I have to re-login every single time I come here - even on the same day, and sometimes also just randomly while browsing, both mobile browser and also desktop.

We who are here are okay that it is alpha version software, but the kind of people on Reddit who have remained are not. Consent matters: we haven't enticed them here, and we need to be okay with that, or else do a LOT better job trying - which will take time and effort, which is underway - and either way it would help to accept the situation as it is not just how we might dream that it could be otherwise.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Chicken and the egg. Nobody is posting or commenting because nobody is posting or commenting.

I’ve decided to ignore waiting for others to post and just post. Some communities I’ve done this in are still voids. Others have actually come to life somewhat. Still slow, but at least other people are now consistently engaging.

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[–] morriscox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about not attacking people who express a liking for Windows?

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I’m more of a doors person, myself.

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[–] Starayo@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The redesign was garbage ux from the start and they ignored absolutely all feedback for years. It was fundamentally flawed from the very beginning and they buried their heads in the sand because they knew most people would still use it.

Most people seemed to use the official app anyway, which is even worse, so I don't see many people changing over this. I was one of the people who said when old Reddit was gone so was I, I just didn't expect them to do something worse before that time came.

[–] ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Won’t change much. Look at OP, complaining about the betrayal and going back several times a day. Old habits are hard to break.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When RiF broke I never went back, i need lemmy to prosper or I will be out of doomscrolling app

[–] Starayo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Honestly I kind of like that lemmy has less content at the moment. When I've seen everything I'm interested in I close it and do something else, rather than doing nothing but scroll.

Though I do miss the long format text stuff a bit.

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not habit, it's that there are many things on Reddit that are not on Lemmy in any meaningful sense yet. I use reddit for those communities that don't exist here and I don't feel like quitting, but Lemmy gets my full attention for everything else.

Using both platforms at once is more about necessity and patience. Lemmy will grow, I'm certain of that, but I'm not going to pretend it's anywhere near active enough yet to fully replace every aspect of reddit. It will, but it isn't there yet.

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[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 61 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So now there's a NewNew Reddit? That IPO is getting ever closer, guess they'll be thrashing around all the harder in the lead up to that to try to show some kind of path to profitability.

[–] Debrox@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeh try opening reddit in incognito w/o logging in. It's basically a mobile design, but now for desktop as well. They haven't even implemented Compact mode. It's unreal. Half of it is wasted space, and it looks so green. Baby vomit vibes.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago

Can't even view it because I'm using a VPN.

Which should tell you enough, tbh.

[–] rwhitisissle@lemy.lol 12 points 1 year ago

Huh. Kinda looks like the front page of twitter. I hate it. I mean, I don't go to reddit anymore unless I'm forced to Google something and even then I gotta turn off my VPN first, but still. Yuck.

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[–] yukichigai@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can see it by going to sh.reddit.com. A lot of people are getting forced to this if they try to use new.reddit.

old.reddit supposedly remains unaffected, so if you use that domain specifically you should be fine. Assuming the Admins aren't lying.

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[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 51 points 1 year ago

old reddit the only way to use reddit for me. When it's gone I will have to waste my time exclusively here.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The redesign would be bad if considerably improved. Because as it is now, it's simply awful.

Things that they did not get:

  • People might not like a crammed interface, but they certainly don't like to unnecessarily roll stuff.
  • Desktops typically have a horizontal screen. Vertical space is at premium, but horizontal space is cheap. That leads to "stripes" of content, not to square blocks.
  • "Muh consisrency! Mobile n desktop inrurrfaces must look teh same!" leads to either a shitty mobile interface, a shitty desktop interface, or both. Never neither.
  • If you can guess that a user is using a desktop interface (YES YOU CAN, you spam the shit out of the users if they dare to use the mobile interface), then you can also guess that desktop users won't "download your appz XD".
  • Everything else.
[–] Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Reddit is a dogshow but Lenny has issues too.

Maybe it’s my instance or some other config but when I open lennmy it’s just wall to wall communist/anti capitalist, open source wanking and musk hate.

Look, people, musk is a cunt, capitalism is ruining not only the planet but yes also the hearts and minds of people and proprietary software probably should be a little less pervasive than what it is but can we, just for one fucking nano second discuss literally anythingbg else?

In my experience (and again perhaps just with whatever I’ve been able to set up) lemmy is tiresome, parochial and very much a one-dimensional experience.

Can any of us remember when Reddit was actually fun? A little of the silliness that made it endearing? Dumb stories about Kevin, incessant nonsense about bacon, when AMA was a fucking legendary little nook of the internet? Surely some of those are the things this community would want to foster, a little light heartedness? Look at the popularity of the Trekkie stuff, nothing to learn there?

It’s cool though, I don’t have to come here and this has all helped me realise that. I’m literally only on here typing this because I’m taking a dump rn.

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I would truly like Lemmy if there were social communities like in reddit instead of what you just described. 2something4you, fantasy, hfy, roleplaying, cats, yurop, etc etc. We need all of that fun stuff

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All of those things exist here. I feel like you guys haven’t explored other instances maybe because while the parent commenter is right, there is a lot of the topics they’re tired of, there’s plenty of other stuff. And there’s plenty of fantasy, role playing, cats, there are a few 2[blank]4you spots.

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[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Honestly you don't have to mute a lot of communities to get a feed with less of those.

And you'd be surprised how better it is to engage with people you disagree with here as long as you're civil, with the exception of a few trolls or extremely online people.

It's definitely a big step up from Reddit and the quality of the content is great when curated and if you don't open it more than 2 or 3 times a day for less than 10min.

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[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Why is anyone here still using reddit? What's the point of not using reddit anymore if you still use reddit? Whats the point in saying fuck u/spez if you keep using reddit?

I've been exclusively on lemmy since the reddit blackout, and it's been great.

Just give reddit up my dudes. Its shit

[–] dmalteseknight@programming.dev 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Momentum, there are active niche subreddits that don't really exist on lemmy yet.

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[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any time Reddit makes a stumble is likely to generate at least a small exodus looking for alternatives. This is an example of such a moment.

In order to keep those users on Lemmy it needs to have activity. A community with no posts or only ancient posts is not attractive. Yes, Lemmy has politics and memes, but it needs more activity in other types of communities. People say as much constantly and it is obvious.

If you want Lemmy to thrive then I highly suggest you post in communities relevant to your interests.

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

"Forced" is a really weird way to describe it. Companies redesign their physical and virtual spaces all the time and people [edit: usually] don't react like it's an act of violence.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny thing is, they do. Our company's app is in the middle of redesign. Previously the "design" was made by programmers just making it work and not really caring that much about visuals. Now there's actual vision and concept behind the new design and yet we've already got some complaints. People always treat redesigns like a personal insult.

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[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wait, there's a newer redisgn than new?

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[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know if I'm the only one who feels this way, but the new design makes it look more like a social media site than a forum.

[–] Debrox@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm sure we'll start seeing stories/reels/shorts making a comeback as well, they just want to make it a copy of other social platforms indeed. Their brainrot knows only one thing - copy trends that make money. They had no clue what to do with reddit, and it's apparent in every decision they've made. RIP Aaron Swartz. He had such a different vision. Reddit team needs to be disbanded. It looks like that's the plan anyhow. Sell reddit and fuck everything off to whoever comes next.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

The Old Reddit Redirect addon for Firefox still works.

The day that breaks, is the day when I finally come to the realization that I will have to find someplace else for niche content that isn't available here. I'm not so sure that such a website exists. Reddit killed off all the competition.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

..: there’s a redesign? I’m still using old Reddit. New Reddit was always shit.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

If they somehow made something worse than new reddit that's actually pretty impressive. There was literally nothing to like about that update.

[–] finthechat@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Wow what a horrible day to have eyes

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 13 points 1 year ago

What was keeping you there?

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 13 points 1 year ago

Many won't leave no matter what happens.

Some have left already.

Everyone else is somewhere in-between.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I actually like the new new Reddit more than the new Reddit that preceded it. Maybe an unpopular opinion. Although I haven't had time to use it that much yet.

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