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[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, they may have a point. Was the sovereign citizen travelling on their own road or someone else's road whom gave them permission to? If so, that's totally fine and the police officer shouldn't be policing stuff owned by other people, only the government's stuff.

Oh, what's that? It was the government's stuff? Well, what a surprise. A person using roads that aren't their's and are in no position to pay for breaking anything or anyone while on them. It's like a stranger walking in your house and just using your shit, "It's okay, I'm a sovereign citizen and the law says I don't have to follow the law."

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Nah it's not like that... I can just go into your house because I spell my name with lowercase letters and put a lot of weird semicolons and shit in there. See when I do that it's just me the person in your house and not the legal entity that the courts think I am that's there. They're two separate entities! So legally I'm not in your house.

BTW, you're out of beer, when are you gonna get some more? I didn't legally drink your beer, but... you're out of beer.

[–] pixelscience@lemm.ee 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

These posts are the highlight of my day!!!

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have so, so many hahaha.

[–] gwildors_gill_slits@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm curious if you interact with any of these people, or do you just lurk?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Sometimes I give them (benign) bogus advice, like to suggest they use a specific kind of postage stamp on their crazy correspondence, which I say is the seal of the great councillor of admiralty and allodial titles.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Please keep the, coming. Love the derangement.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly, without seeing consequences I find them frustrating.

[–] holycrap@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago

We should file a motion for updates with consequences

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Sometimes they just don't post then, usually because they are paper terrorizing some poor court clerk in response.

[–] isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It's like the HK award sub but less grim.

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just the idea that you can force yourself onto another countries road and tell them you don't need a license/etc is so narcissistic it's crazy lol.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Free borders, baby😎

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine hating government so much that you dedicate your life to making your own whole government by way of amateur arts and crafts

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a lot of work. Easier just to order all of the arts and crafts needed for your own government from the internet.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe the cop was a sovereign citizen too, what makes you so sure he has a constitution to uphold?

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the origin of this "traveling doesn't require a license" thing? Usually the sovereign citizens end up grossly misinterpreting some real statute or law. "Traveling" seems to show up consistently. I'm just curious where it came from.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They call it the natural right to travel, I think it comes from maritime law which they base a lot of their nonsense on.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Also the U.C.C. Sovcits fuckin love the U.C.C. If I had a nickel for every time of them says they're not engaging in commerce so they're not required to have a license, I'd be Jeff Bezos.

[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao, 9 at once actually made me laugh out loud

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like I just imagine the cop handing him the tickets one by one and grinning gleefully.

[–] Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago

I’m imagining a scenario where the driver gets one ticket and becomes irate. The police officer decides to issue another and the cycle continues until the driver shuts up.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

So you want to use the legal system, but not be bound by its laws?!

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

DAE have an idea, what the 9 violations might be?

I am not from the US, but i would assume sth. like operating an unregistered vehicle, driving w.o. licencse and maybe one violation he got pulled over for in the first place.

What could the other six violations be?

[–] hitmyspot@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Prob add fake driving licence. Fake id.

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

resisting arrest, failure to ID

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This kind of people sound like they would drive a 1980 shitbox with no headlights, broken side mirrors, dysfunctional blinkers...

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

and driving on the wrong side of the road into oncoming traffic

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Solution: keep on traveling bub

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder why they are obsessed with all things vehicle. I am pretty sure they could make a big show out of not doing jury duty or not answering the complete census without much happening to them.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They are really keen on using those roads which society created for their benefit.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

America in general is car obcessed. Also car related fees are expensive so getting out of them would help

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because a private individual will have the resources to take on a police department. As though they wouldn’t defend their officer. How much money do you have for this case? It’s definitely not going to be enough. But I’d love to see it play out.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 1 points 1 year ago

It's already hard enough to win against the police if you have a legitimate case!

[–] Klicnik@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

How do they think that the officer is bound by law but they aren't?