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One thing that leaps out at me about this ruling is that courts understand the internet a lot better nowadays. A decade or so ago Sony would have probably gotten away with the argument that Cox profited from the users' piracy; nowadays judges themselves use the internet and are going to go "lolno, they probably would have been Cox customers anyway. It's not like anyone pays for internet connection solely to pirate. And in most areas people don't even have a choice of provider, so how is Cox profiting from this?"

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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 167 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Don't believe that you're always gonna be protected by some judge somewhere.

Get a proper VPN, dammit!

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 72 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

In the end, you can't out-tech the law. You need rights.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your so-called "rights" won't hold to the pressure of massive media capital alone. It will erode away.

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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

tech the law. You need rights. I'm not sure we can right-out the system, we probably need both.

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[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I just wish they would advertise the truth. VPN's are basically useless nowadays for everything except torrenting. Most websites once they detect a VPN address will just shut down. Go ahead and give Imgur a try with it turned on to see what I mean.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Change your server to another location. ISP blocks VPN addresses that have been tagged.

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[–] Lemonparty@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Yo! What's a proper VPN these days? It seems like all the ones I used to trust went to shit.

[–] jerrythegenius@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've heard proton and mullvad are pretty good

[–] iliketrains@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

mullvad no longer portforwards, so probably not a good option to torrent with. proton is good if you use their whole ecosystem.

[–] squid_slime@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I do miss port forwarding but could you explain why its necessary for torrenting?

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

Proton does port forwarding

[–] Confound4082@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago
[–] UnfortunateTwist@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I personally like Mullvad, their practices, and their straightforward price of 5€/month. They’re not going to try to lure you in with discounts by subscribing for multiple months or years. Now if Mullvad has gone downhill, someone chime in.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 5 points 2 years ago

Mullvad doesn't do port forwarding anymore, AirVPN seems like a good replacement but I forgot where they are based

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[–] doc@kbin.social 109 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Ain't nobody going to talk about that guy in the thumbnail eating a CD while wearing that hat? Stock photos are weird.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That’s how true hackers read the data without a cd-rom drive.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago

i thought he was munching it into shape so it would fit the floppy drive.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Create a Lemmy version! Be the change you want to see.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Stop copying my comments ;D

But actually: I don't want to mod it :/

[–] nintendiator@feddit.cl 6 points 2 years ago

That's okay, you can create subs and not mod them. Lemmy has a sort-of-mechanism to transfer modship already.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago

What do you mean, how do you pirate stuff online? Surely you got the hat on? I mean, I can see biting a hard drive might be more appropriate but the hat, come on, the hat!

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

And now with AI they can get even weirder, specially if they trained it on already weird stock photos.

[–] Sensitivezombie@lemmy.zip 105 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When will Sony be sued for stealing their customer's legally purchased digital media

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] meiti@lemmy.world 103 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Internet is a utility and should be treated as such.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Up next Sony sues Pacific Gas & Electric for profiting off of piracy. All those torrents were powered by Pacific Gas & Electric.

[–] Chriswild@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sues corning for making all that glass that transmitted the piracy.

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[–] Uiop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago

If you were a true american you'd be for privatization of all utilties

/s

[–] Deello@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

I agree but the average person doesn't even know what that means.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

Spoons made me fat!

[–] moshtradamus666@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I live in Brazil, there are many problems here and stuff. But at least no one gives a fuck about piracy, lol. Never needed a VPN for torrents, not gonna need anytime soon.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago

If I'm not mistaken, Brazilian law allows people to download and make digital copies of copyrighted material, so long as it's for personal use. I should probably look into that sometime

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

It's like that in many countries. The USA is just kind of shit in this regard.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 21 points 2 years ago (5 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A federal appeals court today overturned a $1 billion piracy verdict that a jury handed down against cable Internet service provider Cox Communications in 2019.

If the correct legal standard had been used in the district court, "no reasonable jury could find that Cox received a direct financial benefit from its subscribers' infringement of Plaintiffs' copyrights," judges wrote.

The case began when Sony and other music copyright holders sued Cox, claiming that it didn't adequately fight piracy on its network and failed to terminate repeat infringers.

Cox's appeal was supported by advocacy groups concerned that the big-money judgment could force ISPs to disconnect more Internet users based merely on accusations of copyright infringement.

If not overturned, this decision will lead to an untold number of people losing vital Internet access as ISPs start to cut off more and more customers to avoid massive damages."

In today's 4th Circuit ruling, appeals court judges wrote that "Sony failed, as a matter of law, to prove that Cox profits directly from its subscribers' copyright infringement."


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