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Sometimes the best way to understand why something is going wrong is to look at what’s going right. The asylum seekers from the border aren’t the only outsiders in town. Russia’s 2022 invasion of Ukraine brought a separate influx of displaced people into U.S. cities that quietly assimilated most of them. “We have at least 30,000 Ukrainian refugees in the city of Chicago, and no one has even noticed,” Johnson told me in a recent interview.

According to New York officials, of about 30,000 Ukrainians who resettled there, very few ended up in shelters. By contrast, the city has scrambled to open nearly 200 emergency shelters to house asylees from the southwest border.

What ensured the quiet assimilation of displaced Ukrainians? Why has the arrival of asylum seekers from Latin America been so different? And why have some cities managed to weather the so-called crisis without any outcry or political backlash? In interviews with mayors, other municipal officials, nonprofit leaders, and immigration lawyers in several states, I pieced together an answer stemming from two major differences in federal policy. First, the Biden administration admitted the Ukrainians under terms that allowed them to work right away. Second, the feds had a plan for where to place these newcomers. It included coordination with local governments, individual sponsors, and civil-society groups. The Biden administration did not leave Ukrainian newcomers vulnerable to the whims of Texas Governor Greg Abbott, who since April 2022 has transported 37,800 migrants to New York City, 31,400 to Chicago, and thousands more to other blue cities—in a successful bid to push the immigration debate rightward and advance the idea that immigrants are a burden on native-born people.

To call this moment a “migrant crisis” is to let elected federal officials off the hook. But a “crisis of politicians kicking the problem down the road until opportunists set it on fire” is hard to fit into a tweet, so we’ll have to make do.

Archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20240222123138/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/02/asylum-seekers-migrant-crisis/677464/

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All the blue states/cities should issue these migrants work authorization, protect them from deportation, and assimilate them into workforce. No more sitting around on streets / shelters.

Watch republicans throw hissy fits, litigate all the way to Supreme Court and kill decades worth of time in the process, increase productivity, demonstrate how legalizing illegal immigration can be a net positive, sip tea.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They should, but we're also talking tens of thousands of immigrants per state. Work doesn't magically appear because they're all given permission to work.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pay them to take care of other immigrants. Tax them on what you pay them.

It's not that there's no work, it's that being a cunt to poor immigrants is easier than governing

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not saying it's a bad idea but I don't think the money is there. Cities are straight up prepping to evict migrants, that strongly implies they'll be fending for themselves. They need federal aid and the House won't approve that.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

fending for themselves.

Without the ability to seek legal tax paying work. We complain about how much these people are costing us while forbidding them to take care of themselves, it's insane and insanely frustrating.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

All I'm hearing is "no no no no no no no no no"

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it appears when they have paychecks and want to buy food and clothes and live in well maintained apartments and etc.

[–] UnspecificGravity@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

None of these states are experiencing high unemployment.

Unemployment rate doesn't really indicate how many jobs are unfilled. They (Texas and Florida) also didn't ship immigrants evenly across the state.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What ensured the quiet assimilation of displaced Ukrainians? Why has the arrival of asylum seekers from Latin America been so different? And why have some cities managed to weather the so-called crisis without any outcry or political backlash? In interviews with mayors, other municipal officials, nonprofit leaders, and immigration lawyers in several states, I pieced together an answer stemming from two major differences in federal policy. First, the Biden administration admitted the Ukrainians under terms that allowed them to work right away. Second, the feds had a plan for where to place these newcomers. It included coordination with local governments, individual sponsors, and civil-society groups. The Biden administration did not leave Ukrainian newcomers vulnerable to the whims of Texas Governor Greg Abbott, who since April 2022 has transported 37,800 migrants to New York City, 31,400 to Chicago, and thousands more to other blue cities—in a successful bid to push the immigration debate rightward and advance the idea that immigrants are a burden on native-born people.

Yes, those are the only two reasons. I can't imagine white another reason might be.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Wonder how much of the "successful integration" had to do with being able to work legally without restrictions on Day 1?

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I'd say that third reason is fueling the other two. Doing anything to support southern migrants makes racist douchebags go bonkers and the Biden administration is afraid to have that fight for some reason, so they ignore the situation and now we're here and the only ideas they have are more cops and more deterrence.

Our political leaders today are all either bigots or bigot-enabling cowards. Thank goodness we live in a democracy with rights to free speech and assembly because I don't know how else we're going to get those leaders to act like human beings again.

[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, those are the only two reasons. I can’t imagine white another reason might be.

I doubt that the mayor of New York is a white supremacist, but I could be wrong.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

He doesn't have to be a white supremacist to support white supremacy in government.

He's a cop.

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

"Well outside of Mayor Adams making up bullshit and pulling publicity stunts..."

[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The amount likely pays a huge role.

Per the article, the US got 30k immigrants from Ukraine since the invasion started.

Per this article from September: 2.7 million in 2022, 2.8 million at that point in 2023.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/09/30/how-many-migrants-crossed-the-border-2023-mexico-venezuela-2022/70979085007/

Per this article mentions that November had an average daily crossings at 6400, and that it went up considerably in December:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/record-number-migrant-border-crossings-december-2023/

Reality is that the number of migrants crossing the US Mexico border is roughly 200-300x more than the number of Ukrainian immigrants. That's why its hard to accommodate them.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

New York got 30k, the US has accepted 271k

Also, comparing accepted asylum applications and border crossings is apples to oranges. Among other things, someone who gets picked up by CBP, gets thrown out, tries again and gets picked up again counts as two border crossings, so the fact that the border is so closed down and we're persecuting these migrants is artificially inflating that number.

[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So it still goes from 200-300x the number to being 10-15x. Still an order of magnitude larger. Point still stands.

Edit: Also NYC itself was creating illegal immigration to Canada, paying for migrants arriving in NYC to be bussed up to Roxham Road and illegally cross into Canada.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So it still goes from 200-300x the number to being ?-?x

Ftfy