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[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 137 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm impressed by pretty much everything I see from Offerman, and his role in TLOU was fantastic. It had real impact, and didn't feel at all like the lazy tokenistic drivel that's become Disney's standard fare.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 106 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I'll tell you why:

Because it, kind of like Brokeback Mountain all those years earlier, appreciates that homosexuality and the gay community are not one in the same. While the gay community is extremely important and should never be downplayed, media always tends depict gay people as connected to it or at the very least evoking many of the same aspects and tropes.

This isn't an unfair thing to depict, far from it, but it has the unfortunate result of making many gay characters feels rather same-y, occasionally even one note.

Offerman's character depicts a very accurate thing that doesn't get as much attention in media: the straight acting man discovering his sexuality late in life. With the exception of his piano playing and his penchant for wine and setting the table for elaborate dinners, his character has none of the telltale "gay" aspects you typically find in media, nor does he develop them. In fact his character aspects (survivalist, paranoid, shut in, loner, even a hint conservative) are generally not associated with gay characters, out of fear of depicting them in a poor light.

That's not at all to suggest other depictions of gay men are wrong or bad, Bartlett's character is very well done too. The characters of Bill just feels more notable and fresher in our current media landscape because we see it far less often.

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 77 points 1 year ago (7 children)

piano playing

Fellas, is it gay to play an instrument?

I know that's not what you're saying I just thought it was a funny way to phrase it

[–] Igloojoe@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're playing the skin flute, it might be gay... hahaha

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Men can only drink beer and whiskey. Everything else is gay.

/S

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[–] Fester@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Look, not all pianists are gay, but all gay people play the piano.

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[–] SuperSynthia@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I really appreciate this take. A lot of us are trapped in the closet for a variety of reasons and it takes years to finally be yourself comfortably. Once we are out, we can exist as just people…if our community lets us that is.

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[–] THE_MASTERMIND@lemmy.today 102 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Offerman is becoming more and more a chad in my eyes and that love story was really really good and its coming from someone who really hates comedy and romance genre but gotta say it was really good.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Read his books, but only if you're a lefty. I showed my boomer parents and they hated it.

[–] THE_MASTERMIND@lemmy.today 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] scops@reddthat.com 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've listened to Paddle Your Own Canoe on audiobook (he narrates). Dunno about the rest, but I'd agree based on that one. He makes it clear pretty quickly that Ron Swanson was just a character and his views are different and more nuanced.

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only similarities between Nick Offerman and Ron Swanson are his giggle and his faithfulness to his friends.

[–] dwemthy@lemdro.id 29 points 1 year ago

Wood working and a very erotically charged relationship with Megan Mulally too

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know he's liberal in real life, but the way he plays Ron in parks and rec is how I wish conservatives actually were in real life.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He's not a "conservative" in Parks and Rec, he's an actual libertarian.

The greatest trick neocons ever pulled was tricking right libertarians into thinking they were small government.

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nick Offerman has always been Cool and Good

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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't know how anyone could watch that episode and see anything other than an absolutely heart wrenching tale of love and how beautiful and sad and even stupid it can be. You don't even have to be gay to identify with it, you just have to be human.

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[–] Rackarunge@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the best single episode love story ever.

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

The most Offerman thing to say. 👍

[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 18 points 1 year ago

The episode was directed by the same guy who directed all of "It's a Sin", another incredible bit of telly.

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I agree with the sentiment of the article, but the author can jump off a bridge for perpetuating the "SLAMS" bullshit.

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think the Last of Us demonstrates the difference between writing a story around the character vs the sort of crap in other shows where inclusivity is more like a box ticking exercise and a casting quota.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

God I love that man

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