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Judge mocks X for “vapid” argument in Musk’s hate speech lawsuit::Judge to X lawyer: “I’m trying to figure out in my mind how that’s possibly true."

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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

X's lawyer, Jon Hawk, argued that when the CCDH joined Twitter in 2019, the group agreed to terms of service that noted those terms could change. So when Musk purchased Twitter and updated rules to reinstate accounts spreading hate speech, the CCDH should have been able to foresee those changes in terms and therefore anticipate that any reporting on spikes in hate speech would cause financial losses.

The only thing that makes this arrangement of words makes sense to me is if it's an explanation for why Musk is an idiot for reinstating hate speech accounts since he should've be able to foresee that they'd lose ad money because of it.

[–] Dippy@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

. "‘Oh, what’s foreseeable is that things can change, and therefore, if there’s a change, it’s 'foreseeable.’ I mean, that argument is truly remarkable."

Judge is having none of it haha.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

any reporting on spikes in hate speech would cause financial losses.

That seems like a Twitter problem, not a CCDH problem.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 year ago

How dare they say things that are entirely true.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

If only they'd had a policy in place!

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

It's very easy to hate on Musk but what you have to understand is that it's also fun free speech for me but not for thee.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


It looks like Elon Musk may lose X's lawsuit against hate speech researchers who encouraged a major brand boycott after flagging ads appearing next to extremist content on X, the social media site formerly known as Twitter.

X is trying to argue that the Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) violated the site's terms of service and illegally accessed non-public data to conduct its reporting, allegedly posing a security risk for X.

The boycott, X alleged, cost the company tens of millions of dollars by spooking advertisers, while X contends that the CCDH's reporting is misleading and ads are rarely served on extremist content.

But at a hearing Thursday, US district judge Charles Breyer told the CCDH that he would consider dismissing X's lawsuit, repeatedly appearing to mock X's decision to file it in the first place.

According to NPR, Breyer suggested that X was trying to "shoehorn" its legal theory by using language from a breach of contract claim, when what the company actually appeared to be alleging was defamation.

CCDH's CEO and founder, Imran Ahmed, provided a statement to Ars, confirming that the group is "very pleased with how yesterday’s argument went, including many of the questions and comments from the court."


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