I feel like this lawsuit was a real Streisand effect for Nintendo. Now everyone know there’s a way to emulate the Switch.
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It sure as fuck was. Half of the Nintendo community knows about this situation, and unless for some reason they still have respect for this evil company, they will now freely play whatever switch games they want without giving Nintendo a dime.
I'm sure most Nintendo "fans" aren't a fan of the company itself, just the games
I think you underestimate the level of fanatism of many of those fellas, they would give Nintendo their first born if they had one.
I think you over estimate it. I have loved Nintendo games since I was five, but absolutely fuck the company for doing shit like this.
Yeah it doesn’t take a genius to hate Nintendo for simple things like artificially limiting amibos stock to make more money
It genuinely surprises me the amount of diehard nintendo fans who will defend the corporation's heinous acts tooth and nail that there are. They make good games, and they were my childhood, therefore their wrongs are excusable (or not wrongs at all)!
I’m sure most Nintendo “fans” aren’t a fan of the company itself, just the games
Yup. I like their games and hate their business practices. Also been pirating their games since the 90s.
Yes it was, but in some ways Nintendo still succeeded In what I believe is their goal - to scatter the developers.
By shutting down Yuzu, they fragmented everyone into forking their own copies and competing to become the next Yuzu.
What's more of a threat to them? One emulator with thousands of contributors, or 1000 emulators with 2-5 contributors each?
The best thing about open source is the pooling of developers and resources. While forking is neither a good nor a bad thing, it does tend to break up the developer pool.
It could take anywhere from months to years if at all for everyone to finally settle on a single fork and get back to the level of developer pool that originally existed - then if that happens, Nintendo can come along and do it all over again, at least untill they don't see the value in continuing.
Honestly, anyone that was gonna emulate switch already knew, and nintendo has all their big hitters out of the way so isn't going to be loosing much in terms of sales to piracy at this point. they just want a chilling effect for switch 2
If I had to guess the reason they're going after yuzu so hard is that the Switch 2 is going to be architecturally identical and that you will be able to run Switch 2 games.
Doesn’t seem like they’re gonna get the effect they were hoping for; Yuzu’s corpse isn’t even cold yet and there’s already a successor.
All we are seeing so far is updates to the read me files let's see how we are in a few weeks.
It is the domain expertise that will really set things back. The citra/yuzu devs have to stay away from emulation so the new teams won't have the same understanding and will be less effective. It is so specialized that I'm not sure how anyone can just jump in and pick it up.
I'm rooting for them anyway. They need to let go of discord either way , matrix private chats with encryption for dev communications.
Yeah, I think the 'successors' are still in dmca violation (at least one not sure about the other). But it's still early days, anyway. Yuzu was successful because of the dedicated team behind it. Just setting up other repos doesn't mean much yet. It's gonna take months to see how things shake out.
But you can't deny the potential chilling effect of it all. Nintendo has shown that they will come for you.
But they also showed with what they will come for you.
If you outsource decryption from emulation, they can't do it (this way) again
Yeah. I didn't even know it was possible to do in a comfortable capacity
Nintendo knows this, but it was an easy $2.3 million and now Yuzu development is essentially halted for the time being, meaning slower progress with switch updates, releases, and new hardware (eg switch 2).
Any victory for the FOSS/emulation community is a pyrrhic one.
I was already emulating, but I prefer to play on a TV so I still bought games for my launch Switch. I was waiting for their next console before I jailbroke it, but annoyance with Nintendo for doing this pushed me to do it this past weekend. Now they'll get no more sales from me on the Switch guaranteed.
I play switch games on my TV with my Steam Deck docked :) much better than just a switch.
A good option if you have a Steam Deck!
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Somebody forked the repo and changed the name != the project is being continued
A hydra never dies
To the surprise of literally nobody except Nintendo.
The pikachu face meme is absolutely fitting in this case.
Get sued for copyright infringement by nintendo for using said picture.
They've already used the name, might as well go all in at this point.
Nuzu is just a fork with a rename. There is not going to be real work on the emulator anyways. And it's even hosted on GitHub... The worst Git server out there.
The Nuzu repository is already wiped.
Correction: migrated to GitLab, but I don't expect they'll want to keep it there.
The power of open source compels you!
*compiles
Imagine trying to defeat piracy.
That's a bold strategy cotton let's see if it works out for them...
And when I say works out I mean gets any updates
Future Devs should take note here and develop anonymously and use git over i2p. Develop in private and push code and binaries to public facing mirrors under aliases using tor.
If you want donations accept monero or something.
Also make multiple forks during development and just have them scattered all over the place in the event one goes down. So each contributor has their own fork with its own branding or something.
Dont publish any instructions showing dumping keys or roms in any capacity representing the project. Do it as Joe Random a regular internet user and let it spread organically.
The only thing they did wrong was having the key dumping info associated with them. Nothing else needed to have been done different. Without that, they would have been completely legal. Dumping roms is totally fine.
You want people to know it was you that did all this technically impressive work and problem solving. Had they not done that one thing, they would have been fine putting their names on their work.
You should really probably keep this on the DL. No reason to shut the project down regardless of what Nintendo does, but this needs to be done quietly now since it's gotten a ton of attention.
Edit: Just bcz, fuck you nintendo, I'm never buying your consoles again. You lost any remaining sliver of goodwill you had with this move.
Eagerly waiting for the jokingly named Cu&Du fork.
Waiting for the nuyu fork to spawn
Let's go, as if this was ever going to work.
Ironic calling it suyu given the context, no?
The power of vuzu whozu yuzu
Was just a matter of time
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