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Honestly the funniest thing I've seen in the game so far lmao

Someone on the dev team is cool

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[–] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The original Helldivers came about because the devs read Edward Snowden’s book and started memeing around the office about US propaganda and foreign policy

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Source? Would be very useful to me for some stubborn holdouts.

[–] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Was in an interview with the CEO on a Milsim gamer channel: https://youtu.be/FJs_kqHrzzQ?si=3Zy-kgXDPXLF8qxm

I don’t have a timestamp sorry, on my phone atm

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got you on the timestamp. https://youtu.be/FJs_kqHrzzQ?t=1594

Very good info, thank you for this.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

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[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] NoYouLogOff@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember listening to the litrpg fantasy series He Who Fights with Monsters and I vividly remember when the author started using "Authoritarian" as a visual aesthetic unironically. Like saying "The costume was more like a uniform, and had authoritarian elements," or something like that and it was just so... ugh. When the author wasn't writing about "real world" politics, it was an otherwise interesting read which is saying something about the genre.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's just so funny, it's a totally normal floodlight on the wall of a base. I was like "Why does this have an interact? Can I aim it?" and was greeted with "evil commie lights". Nearly fell off my chair.

Someone on the team is apeing the way the US calls even innocuous things China does authoritarian and it's really funny to me.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It plays into my idea that the whole thing is virtual displays, and we have no idea what things look like outside our helmets.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

I thought that might be a possibility, Black Mirror did it, but then what does it look like to the civilians running around?

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

It's just illuminating the area, communistically

[–] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Helldivers 2, you play fascist space americans, one of the enemy factions are robot communists, this was on a floodlight in one of the bases I cleared.

[–] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gotcha, that's what I figured but I wasn't sure. Been thinking about picking it up.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It is very silly. Be prepared to die a lot and accept that dying multiple times is quite clearly supposed to happen in every mission.

I think a lot of freeze-gamer types are struggling to deal with the fact they die so much.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, people don't understand that retreating and having a safe exit is part of the game. You actually have to think tactically with all the explosions, you can't just run forward and shoot. It plays way more like Squad than Call of Duty, despite having airdrops like call of duty. Having the ability for anybody to call in an airstrike is powerful.

[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I know nothing about Helldivers so forgive me if Im talking out of my ass, but are the robots communists or are the robots controlled by communists? I hope its latter because the idea of being forced to ram your face pointlessly into an army of communist machines while knowing full well that the average person in that society is just squidward-chill while the game says all the same anti-communist stuff from real life about this obviously wonderful society to justify you fighting this pointless war would be amazing. Maybe the robots should do a reverse liberty prime and spout communist propaganda.

[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not well steeped in the lore, but basically humans created the "automatons" forebears, can't remember their names, and when they developed sentience, they declared independence and created a socialist state, which kicked off a big war.

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From getting some tiktoks of Helldivers 1 lore, the Cyborgs are the precursor to the Automatons and have basically been entombed on Cyberstan (lmao), which is where they sought to be a free, independent socialist society of augmented humans and any others rejecting the fascism of Super Earth.

Helldivers 2 is apparently 100 years after, and there's suspicions that the Automatons aren't just a collective of killing machines making a beeline towards Super Earth - the forcibly-augmented/fully robotic have some level of sentience and are apparently mounting a liberation campaign on Cyberstan by travelling around the periphery.

also apparently the bugs literally produce oil and were bred for this purpose lmao

[–] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The robots are controlled by the communist androids, you never see androids in game.

[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

you never see androids in game.

None of the people I watch play the game seemed to know about them so that needs to change. People knowing about the androids is a gateway to making the satire good in a way starship troopers could never hope to be. I cannot stress how much having a clear and relatable good example faction in the setting screws with the type of "lol grimdark everyone bad" thought terminating cliche people use to dissolve the satire of things like this into nothing.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Best you'd get would be a cutscene, the game is a bunch of randomly generated missions with no real interconnecting story other than "there is a war". All of the satire is set-dressing.

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

They don't understand Freedom or Patriotism, and that makes them filthy communists, and that's why we need to send thousands of our bravest/most loyal men to spill oil on a faraway planet. To protect Our Way of Life. Trying to understand these machines is a fool's errand and if you insist on continuing, I might have to report you to the nearest Democracy Officer for being an automaton sympathizer.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Cyborgs were communists. Humans created the Cyborgs and then they rebelled as communists. Humanity canonically won the war against them in the first game and now the Cyborgs are imprisoned on a mining planet called Cyberstan.

The Automatons were created by the Cyborgs and hold the same ideology. At least that's what we're told, I see no reason to believe otherwise.

The current theory going is that the Automatons are fighting towards Cyberstan to free the Cyborgs, who will then presumably join them as part of the faction.

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't they mount skulls on their robot death machines?

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They wear capes. Earth is called "Super Earth". Their propaganda is that the Helldivers are superheros.

Yes the capes have skulls on them.

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, the robots are trying to look villainous?

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

I don't know I don't think it's supposed to be entirely logical. Rule of cool I think?

The first time I saw this in game I laughed so fuckin hard.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When I heard of the game I immediately thought of Foxhole, but without all of the fun of building a war economy by hand

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

I chortled.

Tankie lighting for my tankie room inside my tankie bunker