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For anybody who doesn't understand the argument, it's specifically a rebuttal to the idea that "The second amendment only applies to muzzle loaded muskets because nothing more advanced existed at the time"
"Free speech only applies to newspapers and soapboxes because nothing more advanced existed at the time"
well you could argue that digital is an extension of signaling using a form of light and sound - which has existed since prehistory.
However, pedal bicycles and cars are on a similar spectrum (+ horses, tractors, mopeds, powered scooters...) and are subject to different laws.
And guns are just a way to transfer stored energy into a projectile that moves much faster than a human can do without the help of tools - which has existed since prehistory
Fully automatic assault atlatl when?
Yup. Also, they aren’t saying “if we lose guns everyone should lose the right to free speech as well”
They are saying that, since the right to free speech is clearly and self evidently important in modern mediums, the second amendment clearly extends to modern technology as well.
It's not a bad counterargument to that claim, we've just moved so far past that into the cost-benefit-analysis stage. The cost to keep the 2nd ammendment as it is is pretty fucking high.
These conversations always stunlock me. We are months away from living in a dictatorship in the U.S. and ya'll are talking about what exactly? Revising the 2nd amendment? Can you please explain that to me?
Because you simply must be out of your fucking mind if you think disarming yourself in the face of Ya'll Queda is the course of action.
I hear you but also: school shooters
Plus the dictator thing isn't a guarantee, and even if he does win there's still the possibility of impeachment when he's prosecuted for inciting an insurrection
It's literally communist north Korea's if I don't have a nuke detonator up my ass at all times
The problem is taking the amendments as unchangeable and almost divinely commanded. They were things written by people hundreds of years ago, and they can be changed. They're literally called amendments. It doesn't matter whether the second amendment protects gun rights, it's up to us nowadays to decide if we want people to have the right to a gun, decided based on our ethical arguments, not what an old document says.
I say this as a non American, it's just pretty weird to me that even the anti gun people defend their position by quoting the second amendment (usually), rather than suggesting changing it.
It's not even just that amendments happen, its that as written laws the US constitution is terribly drafted. It is vague, doesn't define many of the terms it uses and is full of edge cases that it doesn't deal with.
It's more a statement of ideology than actual law, which means you need a whole system of court decisions that lay out the actual practical interpretations that courts are supposed to follow, which of course are decided based on the political needs of the day so they are a total mess.
They appear to be saying that if they aren't allowed to own military style automatic weapons for "home defense" then they want all freedoms of speech revoked across all media platforms. I'm not sure what one has to do with the other, but that seems to be the gist of the message.
Edit: my poor spelling
What you appear to be saying is that both major political ideologies in this country are actively trying to strip our rights and what they disagree on is which should be taken first
*gist
Thank you!
So no more spewing hate speech disguised as “free speech” and inciting violence on Facebook and Twitter right? Right?
Imagine wanting to own the GOP so much you sell your right to speech. You fucking lunatic
I’m pointing out that whoever made this meme probably didn’t consider that right wing chudds get away with saying a lot of fucked up shit on social because it’s considered “free speech”. See: Libs of TikTok (fuck them).
Restricting the first amendment cuts both ways.
I'll take false equivalency for $400, Alex
If you are scared of semi-automatic rifles, wait until you find out about fully-semi-automatic rifles.
What do the mass shooting statistics say? More mass killings with full auto, semi-auto, or non-auto firearms? Or does the type not matter and they're all pretty much used equally? I always hear about semi-auto, but the media never mentions full auto rifles in school shootings and such. Or whatever fully-semi-automatic means.
Fully semi automatic (probably) refers to semi auto with a modification like a bump stock
No I'm referring to the nonsense term used by news casters when talking about semi-auto guns. Fully-semi-auto don't exist.
Cool! It's hard to catch sarcasm over text :)
