8oow3291d

joined 5 days ago
[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 1 points 3 minutes ago* (last edited 2 minutes ago)

Yes, but Cuba never did this whereas the US attacked a defenseless ship returning from war games and killed 87 Iranian sailors.

It was a warship in a war. So fuck the US in general, but that is a bad example of illegality.

The US has also been attacking civilian fishing ships claiming they are narco terrorists summarily executing civilians without trial.

Yes, that was also illegal. But that was not part of the Cuba embargo.

The US is doing a lot of illegal shit right now. But if you want to argue that the US is doing illegal shit related to Cuba, you need to actually cite examples related to Cuba.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 1 points 1 hour ago

When unilaterally attacked by a terrorist state neighbour supported by the largest military in the world, I do feel Iran has the moral right to use assymetric warfare to survive.

There is an argument here, if the asymmetric warfare was against the US or US allies. But Iran is attacking the whole world, including many innocents. Especially the blockade of fertilizer exports has the potential to kill countless innocents.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 2 points 1 hour ago

The Fremen in the books were the finest soldiers in the galaxy. And Baron Harkonnen in the book (and the films) fucked up big time, by being completely unaware of their numbers or their quality.

I am reminded of Putin's expectation of a 3 day special military operation in Ukraine. Baron Harkonnen's intelligence fuckup was arguably even worse.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 3 points 1 hour ago

From a narrow ethical standpoint, there is no issue I can see?

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 1 points 2 hours ago

The Romans dominated by I don’t know why the decided to divide stuff by 12.

This is nonsense, right?

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk -2 points 2 hours ago

How about neither?

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 7 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

There is a power imbalance when dating your daughter. Just like a teacher is generally not allowed to date their student. So there is an issue with dating your daughter.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

So because the US is breaking the law against Iran, Iran gets to break the law against third party shipping?

You are advocating evil.

Also, I haven’t heard of any third party country being hit

Hitting the ships of a country is an attack against the country: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/3219379/stricken-thai-ship-drifts-into-iranian-waters

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Like, I am absolutely not blanket defending the US under Trump. That shit is straight out fascism. Nowhere have I said the US is acting morally or legally with regards to Iran.

There are still some vestages of pre-fascist US in e.g. the US state department. So sometimes the US will actually justify their actions legally. So not literally every single thing the US does is illegal. But plenty of things are.

But you are apparently defending Iran's illegal behavior, by pointing to the US's illegal behavior. That is not how ethics works... two wrong does not make one right. And it is kinda wild that people like you often end up defending the blatantly evil fundamentalist undemocratic terrorist Iran.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)
  • So taking the first one on that list:

Moments before the seizure, the tanker was flying the Guyanese flag, despite not being registered in that country.

It is legal to seize ships flying a false flag. So that seizure was not an illegal blockade by the US.

  • Second one is a Venezuelan one, which fair enough the US is acting illegally in all kinds of ways with Venezuela, nobody serious disputes that. But Venezuela is a special case.

  • Third one was a Panama flagged ship, and "Permission to board was obtained from Panama". So boarding that was legal.

Etc etc I assume. My point being, it is not a complete blockade - the US is going out of their way to specify legality (excluding Venezuela...). The US is not going to illegally board the Russian ships heading for Cuba.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

You know when people said that, it was derisive right?

Derisive for some people. Not for some others.

Also, hilarious to say the Gulf War was the good and just war and the Iraq war was a big fuck up, considering they were both the product of the same political dynasty.

What kind of bullshit argument is that? Bush I could have taken Baghdad but didn't, because he was not an idiot and knew it would destabilize the Middle East. Bush II undid the decision of his father - that was the act of overthrowing the actions of his father, not some long term dynastical plan.

Here is Cheney in 1994 describing everything that went wrong after taking Baghdad, which is why Bush I did not do so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YENbElb5-xY

As if one did not inextricably lead to the other.

It didn't. Clinton did not go to Baghdad, and Gore would not have done so. Because they were not idiots, would have listened to the experts saying it was incredibly stupid.

view more: next ›