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We chose to call the pond and the two trees Wales and the sheep the Welsh, stop invalidating them

So this is an unstoppable mass movement with no actual intentions and you're just being swept along?

So your hope is that by threatening to not vote, you and likeminded voters will get Biden to change his positions sufficiently for you to vote for him before the election? That's not what you said in your first comment, and you being only one person is equally applicable to this or to what I said.

Why be mad at a social media account, when you’re apparently not mad at Biden?

Who said I'm not pissed at Biden? But I'm not talking to Biden right now.

All he has to do, is listen to his voters.

If you are stating you won't vote for him, you're not his voter.

If he can’t do that now, why does he deserve either of our votes?

It doesn't matter if he deserves it or not, unfortunately. I've already put forward my position that in FPTP, you effectively do not vote for someone, you vote against someone.

You are not limited to just your vote on the day of presidential elections in terms of your political engagement

It's the best you can with with your vote on voting day. It doesn't stop you doing anything else on any other day.

Several NATO members have already okayed this for Ukraine and remain distinctly un-nuked. Plus, of course, the Ukrainians have been doing it with their domestically-produced gear for ages and also haven't been nuked.

Only if you never think more than an election ahead.

So how many elections are you expecting that the Dems must lose in order to start fielding candidates you like, or for another party that does so to take their place? It doesn't matter how many they lose if it never moves the needle your way, so you'll have to be quite persuasive that this will achieve something that's worth capitulating to the American right for a decade or longer.

How is that different than what lead the Republican party to trump?

Because of the actual outcomes during the four years between each election and the fact that you can protest and write and whatever else you want for improvement during that time. Your vote does have to be your entire political engagement.

Does this suck? Yes. Does the Republicans winning do literally anything to fix any of it? No. For that you need the Overton window to shift so far that the Republican party dies and the new two-party system has the Dems on the right, or you need a new electoral system. Neither of these is accomplished by the Dems losing.

Why do you think it’ll be different this time?

I don't think it'll be different this time because the candidates have already been picked. We already both know what the options are. Unfortunately, "no different" is a lot better than the other option. That's why I'm advocating voting for damage control on the day. Vote against the worst option, because that's how FPTP works.

Both are first past the post, which is creates a two-party system. There are a lot of other differences, yes, but for the purposes of the post it's close enough where it counts

If neither winning nor losing does progressives any favours, then there's no issue with trying to make the least bad realistic option win

Right, but I agree with you about that. I'm just saying the meme also applies well to the upcoming UK election.

Did you reply to the comment that you intended to here? I'm not sure I understand why you've said what you said. If that's just me being thick then please clarify for me, I'm lost

I think you've misunderstood me. Last time the Democrats lost an election, you got Joe Biden as the next candidate. Why would making the Dems lose this election produce a more progressive candidate?