What if, hear me out because it might be a crazy thought, it’s not just the hateful men that are affected? You think nazis are the only ones experiencing male loneliness?
Syrc
joined 2 years ago
Yup, all of this is true and it’s sad how people with influence fail to understand this.
You talked about 17-22 yo, which definitely feel negatively about people lecturing them on what they feel is an irresistible primal instinct, but another big issue is that, in the digital era, even younger kids are exposed to that. Older teenagers may feel like something they did is seen as terribly wrong and be angry at that, but there’s younger ones that probably can only think “…what did I even do? Why is everyone angry at me just because I’m a boy?”.
And guess who comes in to give them “answers” when they’re in that confused and vulnerable state? Yup, Tate & friends. Really, they’ve figured everything about how to make as many people as possible fall in their rabbithole to profit from them, and we’re doing nothing to stop them. Even Tate was arrested only because he did some heinous shit to people “working” with him AND boasted about that, otherwise he’d still be around. We need some serious regulations on social media algorithms, but I doubt we’re ever gonna see those in our lifetimes considering who’s in power.
Watched this from another clipper, although other members hinted at it I think it’s the first time someone gave a clear definition of their own sexuality. Good for her, hopefully she doesn’t get too much backlash from the usual weird people.
Personally, I didn’t expect it but thinking about it for a bit, it does check out. She very clearly plays up the horniness for comedic purposes (and damn she’s good at it lol), I don’t think I’ve ever seen her talking seriously about stuff like that (although, admittedly, I could say that for a lot of other members, both male and female).
Bears don’t “tend to avoid” any more than people do. There’s dangerous people that would assault you, and there’s species of bears (i.e. Polar Bears) that would definitely attack you on sight.
But the whole thing is not about the technicality. The videos were very clearly framed with emphasis on the gender of the human, they got extremely viral and millions of young males saw women saying stuff like “at least the bear would kill me instantly”. How do you think they felt, as kids that probably never even had a relationship before? You think that “helped them understand the women’s point of view” like they said was the purpose of the video, or brought them in the opposite direction, making them feel like they’re some different species, impossible to relate with, planting a seed that will only grow through the indoctrination of all the online toxic masculinity gurus?
Enough with the “Men vs. Women”, especially online where young kids will see them without any context of why is that happening. Both sexes need to do their best to stop prejudices towards the other inside their groups, and only then we can have a serious and understanding conversation. Of course that’s hard to do between algorithms and bad actors, but there’s really nothing else we can do at this point, since the large majority of both camps is entrenched in their opinion and will only listen to people of their own gender.
I know. The main thing they need is a non-misogynist male role model, which is becoming increasingly hard to find because apparently social media algorithms encourage the type of content that pushes them in the opposite direction.
Realistically, imo, the main way women can help with this, besides talking to them very early on (VERY early on, as Tate-types are unfortunately gaining traction in school as well), is trying to combat the misandrist narrative that keeps on growing in feminist spaces. One example is the whole Bear debacle, which furthered the divide between genders even more. If people (in general, I’m sure many men shared it as well) keep making stuff like that go viral, it makes it harder and harder for young males to develop any sort of empathy for the opposite sex.
Where i’m baffled though is the basic math. Younger people are having less and less sex and relationships, people are broadly staying single and not dating or having any intimacy well into adulthood and often have NO plans to date or have a family even, so how is this eruption of sweaty used-car-salesmen making traction? There are no success stories, it’s entirely manufactured. It’s no different than the flat-earth movement but for pudgy white teenage boys.
The “success story” is Andrew Tate, and probably even people like Musk or Trump. They see how extremely misogynistic people manage to get with multiple women nonetheless and get fooled into thinking being “stoic” and generally a jerk is the key to getting laid. They don’t realize that those people are just rich and are getting laid despite their personality, not thanks to it.
Then there’s also the ones who are fully aware of this and are sold on the “grind mentality”, so that they can get rich like them (again, missing the point on how all of them either did it through crimes, were born rich, or both).
Of course if you look at it with some logic it all falls apart, but you can’t expect young people to have enough knowledge to do this. They need some positive role model to tell them right from wrong, but it’s becoming increasingly hard when the negative ones keep springing up like mushrooms.
I cannot fathom how more and more men are latching onto this shit even as statistically, they are more lonely than ever before.
Because toxic masculinity communities are one of the few online spaces which don’t stigmatize you for being a white male and daring to have problems in your life despite your “privilege”.
If people stopped talking down on young males and actually listened to their problems, all these toxic masculinity gurus wouldn’t get the tiniest fraction of the following they have. But as long as we keep pushing onto them all the sins of everyone who ever lived with their same gender, they’ll end up falling in those communities which turns them into Andrew Tate replicas.
No but you see, this one actually predicted a lot of stuff that actually happened!
…I mean, she said that she predicted them after they happened, but I’m sure she wouldn’t lie about that, would she?
22
Holiday bookings to Japan are down - could a 90s manga comic’s earthquake prediction be to blame?
(www.theguardian.com)
Love the retro artstyle, it fits Gigi so much
Holy crap that was a rabbit hole.
They’re not “millions” right now. Imagine every single dollar they currently spend for different types of advertising, all used as budget for astroturfing. It would turn every online space into bots talking to themselves and nothing else.
view more: next ›
No, this post implies that “male loneliness” is a thing only because most men are “douches”. And that’s just a blatant misrepresentation of reality which requires a deep misandry to believe even for a second.