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In order for your explanations to have any kind of substance, could you list all the similarities between tankies and conservatives, that are not also traits of libertarians, you have in mind?

Why hello, my confused, stereotypical American friend. I'm sure life's hard over there in the imperial core, so let me suggest some light reading to you, while you wait for the complete authoritarian take-over from the right, while you keep whining about the left:

Blackshirts and Reds: Rational Fascism and the Overthrow of Communism by Michael Parenti


An accessible exploration of the differences between fascism and communism, addressing why Western societies often conflate the two, and how capitalist interests have portrayed socialist movements as “red fascists.” Especially readable for American audiences looking for a critical but not apologetic take on “tankies” and authoritarianism.

The Authoritarian Specter by Bob Altemeyer


A highly readable introduction to the psychology of authoritarianism, focusing especially on how these tendencies can arise in ordinary Americans — not just extremists or “the other side.” Explains why people across the spectrum endorse authoritarian politics.

Or may I suggest a pretty good video, getting into the basics: Micheal Parenti's Lecture from 1986

It's very hard to convince the American people, that they should send their sons, maybe who knows some day even their daugthers, to go fight and die in some jungle to make the world safe for United Fruit Companies or Chase Manhattan or Procter & Gamble or ITT.

So you say: it's to stop the threat of that communist country.

It's very hard to convince the American people, that a tiny country like Nicaragua or Vietnam or El Salvador is a threat to US security.

So you say: It's not Nicaragua. They are the puppets of the Cubans, who are the puppets of, bum bum bum bum, the big red bear in the Kremlin.

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So if people keep learning and will change their previous held convictions in light of new evidence they've seen, you start not taking them seriously? I'd say the fail is on your side there.

If that would be the case, then I’d suggest to them to lay down the phone, go outside and touch some grass.

Their nationalism emerging through lemmy commentary is what I would call a hot take.

They’re not forced to engage in political discussion on the internet, that they have trouble to process emotionally and they are also not forced to participate in hate-based communities, neither are they forced to use hate speech in general.

This user is notoriously using hate speech and counterfactual fabrications. I appreciate you trying to explain their behavior in an effort to show solidarity with what the Ukrainian people are enduring, but I’d also caution you, not to find excuses for right-wing extremists.

Sure, he be mad. But his national identity is all he’s got, it’s how he defines himself, how he gets his self worth. Normal people don’t screech around the internet, how everyone are cockroaches and degenerates, if they only so much as try to formulate an opinion other than ‘Slava Ukraina’. That’s still hate speech.

We don’t tolerate this shit with Russians, nor Palestinians, sometimes we do with Israelis, but sane people don’t.

You don’t need to tolerate or excuse national extremism, to show support and solidarity with the people being forced to fight and die in a war.

No, we do not both know that. I don’t even know why you yap about Serbia‘s security information agency. You‘re in fantasy land again. 

Prove to me that this is what “tankies” say, like in a way that shows „that‘s representative of tankies“, because you are the one accusing a whole group, that you deem to be a roaches. You can’t, because you make this shit up. Liar.

But either way, that also would never excuse your own hate speech. You don’t even reject me labeling you a Nazi or fascist, because you’re proud of it, but you are also a freaking coward, without the courage to openly say it, because it would get you in trouble. Coward.

You also failed to prove that these journalists are “supporting Russian genocidal imperialism”, but you do repeatedly delegitimize and dehumanize journalists that don’t follow your narrative. You know who does that? Facsists do.

Your attitude shows the lack of solidarity with your equals and the lack of actual humanity by consistently using dehumanizing language.

Everyone I don't like is a Nazi!

Nah man, not everyone, you specifically.

If you keep being confronted with these kinds of accusations, maybe stop and wonder: Why does this keep happening? And no, it’s not because the people that bring forth those accusations are degenerate roaches.

See: nazi bar, and you being the bartender.

Not just, but also. Anyway, if he wasn't, I'm sure he'd be able to put forth some kind of coherent argument against that ... himself, bartender.

You failed to elaborate on the victim blaming thing you just mentioned.

Also, I only called Skiluros a nazi, do you have problems with reading comprehension? You are merely a bartender — but do you identify as a nazi?

I'm mad, because you are an enabler of fascist narratives, counterfactuality and hate speech.

Nice one, stalker. Please, show me the part where I do that and explain to me, how that's victim blaming.

Also, you are coming to the defense of the guy you reluctantly banned for, let me check, five whole days from your little nazi bar for repeately using dehumanizing hate speech, only after weeks during which you did not act on it, although you were confronted with it several times. You are the Bartender of a nazi bar, gj.