doben

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[–] doben@lemmy.wtf -2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

a. If you think I'm a nazi in a bar, that's not a nazi bar: why am I still here, bartender?

b. If you think I'm not a nazi, but in a nazi bar, the real question would be: what are you doing here, bartender?

i think you're mad because i didn't fit into your preconceived notions and your whole dialogue tree is ruined

Lol ya, big ass gotcha, haha. Why you think my notion is preconceived? I'm working with what you give me.

[–] doben@lemmy.wtf 2 points 6 days ago

Yes, you are correct in that Geopolitical economy is a contemporary Marxist approach to understanding the capitalist world historically. I don‘t see the problem. You scared of Marxism? If billionaire owned western media does not provide factual reporting, you‘ll have to go elsewhere.

As I said, focus on the substance. Do you believe what is shown there is wrong? Like, the tweets of Machado or the quoted reporting from more mainstream outlets?

[–] doben@lemmy.wtf -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (8 children)

Ah, alright. The mod of a ~~nazi bar~~¹ highly politicized community² doesn't like labels and then strategically formulates the most broad and empty perspective about their own ideological thought, one can come up with. I applaud the skill³ you excercise.

What about yourself?

Let me try one like that, but from my perspective:

I avoid labelling myself as I don’t think it does any good.

But gun to the head, I’d have to say I’m also somewhat of an environmentalist, but actually more of a humanist with a touch of economic analysis. Though I avoid calling myself an economic analyst because it can be affiliated with radicalism, and I’m not opposed to democratic institutions.

Socially, I care most about justice, liberation and human dignity.

  1. Nazi Bar: A space in which bigots or extremists have come to dominate due to a lack of moderation or by moderators wishing to remain neutral or avoid conflict.
  2. A community, that bases its entire means of existence on the labeling of the political other.
  3. Blame-avoidance and the refusal to clearly label one’s views are common tactics used by individuals — especially those holding controversial, minority, or potentially stigmatized positions, but also by politicians seeking to broaden their appeal or evade direct critique.
[–] doben@lemmy.wtf 1 points 6 days ago

Sure alright, I got heated by your sad apathy. Explain the "Disingenuous" part, tho. What's disingenuous about what I said?

[–] doben@lemmy.wtf -3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Focus on the substance, here's the evidence laid bare: Geopolitical Economy Report. Stop acting reflexively ignorant.

[–] doben@lemmy.wtf -2 points 1 week ago (10 children)

What‘s your ideology, goat?

[–] doben@lemmy.wtf -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Oh, suddenly you don't care? The only thing, that doesn't make sense then, is you commenting at all. Curiously you do, tho — with vibes-based political commentary. If you're really so apathetic, may I suggest to you to stfu.

What I got from your form of verbal maneuvering (lol), tho, is that you are not only apathetic, but also ignorant.

[–] doben@lemmy.wtf -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

That's all very vague. Be more explicit. Many argue many things.

What is the ideology you're hinting at? Communism? What is the body count of communism? Where do you think you've got that that narrative from?

To round out the picture, and because body count seems so decisive, we should include capitalism, right — as fascism, many argue, is a neccessary consequence of imperial capitalism protecting itself in crisis and it's our current economic ideology and therefore an ongoing, systematic phenomenon?

What's the body count of capitalism?

Many would argue we currently live by an ideology with a body count of double digit millions of excess deaths annually, through poverty & hunger, healthcare inequality, workplace deaths & diseases, environmental & climate deaths, structural violence, and of course war & imperial violence.

[–] doben@lemmy.wtf -5 points 1 week ago

Not the same thing. Equating the far left and the far right is nonsensical, as horseshoe theory isn’t a real thing. Giving room for such thought only strengthens extreme right positions and is exclusively used to either distract from or downplay far right commentary or elevate liberal/centrist thought as the only acceptable path. It’s interestingly never used by people from the far left themselves.

Your’s either an ignorant take or one with an agenda, which is it?

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