ikiru

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[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, I do feel safer. You should too. I voted for Biden to stop the fascist take over. I didn't fully realize how much of a danger it was until Jan 6th. But it's become crystal clear to me since.

I don't feel safer because I've seen the slide towards fascism way before Trump and I know it will continue towards fascism because this slide includes the support and enabling of Democrats. There is no getting off this train by just electing Biden or the next assless Democrat who will just watch as fascists consolidate power.

A democracy that is against genocide is better than a fascist dictatorship that actively pursues genocide at home and abroad. How is that even a question?

It's really telling to me you still consider this a democracy that is against genocide. The President is literally funding and arming a genocide that is happening right now. And when the choice is between a President who supports genocide or a President who supports worse genocide, how is that not already a dictatorship? How is that a functioning democracy? That is why it is even a question.

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Damn, what a waste of precious Chartreuse.

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Where is this bookstore?

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

I really can't wait for this dirtbag aesthetic to be over.

Crusties are exempted though.

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Hey, I made the same joke a day before this was written!

Are Onion writers mining hexbear for material? fry

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I never heard of Kazan until now but he does sound like an asshole.

Still, I always liked Guzman and he seems like a very chill, real dude here. Hopefully he likes the film for other reasons than Kazan's politics, although now I'm interested to watch it for myself. But I'll check out Ballad and Cooley High based off his recommendation too!

There's a Criterion 50% off sale at Barnes & Noble going on right now if you want to pick up something.

Oops meant to reply initally so commented twice.

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Trump is a fascist and fascist enabler. Biden is not.

You're delusional if you are not even willing to admit to yourself you voted for a fascist enabler because you wanted to feel safer.

It's a two party system. Republicans win with low voter turn out. By not voting for Biden you are helping Trump. It's just math. You can't guilt people into supporting a fascist like Trump.

That's a functional democracy worth defending at the cost of supporting genocide to you?

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Whataboutism.

the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by ... raising a different issue.

Who raised the issue of Trump or the Republican Party when I discussed Biden?

We live in a democracy with a two party system.

Do you still feel it is a democracy worth defending by approving genocide when the choice is a fascist-enabler and a fascist?

No Trump would be worse. He was the one who moved our embassy to Israel. He is the one who is going to destabilize the situation further. Half of the Democratic party wants a ceasefire. Republicans want unconditional support for Israel. Have you ever watched or read fox news? The difference between the parties becomes quite clear, very quickly.

Whataboutism. It's obnoxious when it isn't being used against your opponents, right?

You can't guilt someone into enabling fascists. It doesn't work. Think about all the people the Republicans are going to get killed. It's not equivalent.

I haven't supported any fascists. The Democratic Party, on the other hand, was the one who guilted you into enabling fascists. Netanyahu has gone mask-off fascist and the Democratic Party guilted you and others into voting for Biden who has been enabling Netanyahu for decades, and continues to do so now. How many people have to be murdered for you to stop supporting Biden? Do you feel any guilt or shame for voting to empower Biden who shipped weapons and sent money to Israel to bomb children and their families?

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (7 children)

More whataboutism. Trump isn't the President overseeing and providing cover for the genocide right now and Biden hasn't helped in undoing neither the inhumane incarceration system nor the camps ('migrant detention centers') already underway in the US.

But I asked you what could be worse than genocide, and you responded by saying genocide. So, nothing can be worse than genocide? Great, then we are well on our way.

Even if it isn't completed now, Biden has been more than helpful to the far Right colonizers in Israel by enabling this and setting precedent for whenever they wish to continue. Democrat or Republican, it doesn't matter, Israel has validity now to continue genocide. And Democrat or Republican, it doesn't matter, voters like you have spoken—support is unconditional, let genocide continue.

Where do you draw your line? How many murdered Palestinian families do you find acceptable?

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

On the contrary, you are displaying the tremendous privilege of living in the imperial core by being able to choose between "'genocide' and 'genocide even more, and even more local genocide'" and justify literally voluntarily voting to choose genocide in order to make yourself feel more comfortable within the imperial core.

True fascism taking power in the US means that I and the people around me will be murdered. But I don't feel the ethical apathy to be able to coldly prefer international genocide of others to keep myself safe at home all the while pretending like I saved the freedom for the entire world as children and whole families are being murdered. Biden is not the progressive savior all of you claimed he was, now at least you admit you chose "genocide"—which I do, and history will, judge harshly.

If you choose to vote for him again after this, you will consciously approve of genocide and be all the more guilty.

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