In the 20s Gaza was a tourist destination.
It's not like this hasn't been reported before. It's sort of an open secret.
That's an opinion a lot of people had in 2011, ten years after the attack. And the Muslim Brotherhood killed more people in Egypt in its reign of terror than AQ did in 9/11.
No of course not all Palestinians (or all Gazans) in the Muslim Brotherhood. But the risk of Hamas sneaking through is too high for Egypt to tolerate.
"Ceasefire-for-hostages"
Would you assume that they're asking for a ceasefire in a percentage of the territory or the full territory?
I'm sorry I made you feel attacked. It's just that's it unreasonable for a society who directly suffered from a horrible actor to forget that so soon. It was 2013 when they were in power last and 10 years is a blink of an eye in the timeline of a society. In 30-40 years I think the pain of the Brotherhood's actions may have healed enough that they would risk allowing the brotherhood in to aid in civilian casualties.
You're not wrong for seeing the suffering in Gaza and wanting it to stop. You're not wrong for seeing the atrocities of Hamas and calling them out.
I hope you have a great day.
I'm arguing in good faith. You're ignoring the atrocities committed in recent memory. People in Egypt lost family to the Brotherhood's actions and they're unwilling to forget that.
It doesn't take much sanity to see that attacking your much larger and stronger neighbor and indiscriminately murdering their elderly and children and parading raped corpses through your streets would be a terrible idea. But we have idiots on both sides.
I mean future articles covering it have said things like "Ceasefire for $x hostages rejected" for exactly this reason.
If not a ceasefire, what do you think is the ideal first step for preventing as many casualties as possible?
In the long run or the short run? If I only care about the casualties in the next 1-3 months; of course I want a ceasefire. I'd be a fool not to. However; if I widen my view to 12 months, 24, 5 years Hamas is going to kill thousands of Gazans a year if left in power. It's going to kill them by starting more wars, by impoverishing them, by keeping them from accessing the aid that's being provisioned from them.
Like it's not like people are heartless. What's happening in Gaza is horrible and I wish it wouldn't. But it feels like taking out Hamas' ability to govern and rule is like taking off a bandaid. It's best done quickly.
I mean if Hamas was replaced by a Hezbollah equivalent that would be in improvement.