mwguy

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[–] mwguy 0 points 2 years ago

Those stats aren't from war-time - this isn't a spears vs guns situation.

That's objectively wrong. There were several active conflicts during that time period. With similar targeted bombing campaigns, in 2008-2009, 2012 and 2014 with several smaller skirmishes in between.

[–] mwguy -2 points 2 years ago (25 children)

I am. If the IDF had conducted a slave raid into Gaza I'd be calling on the US to partner with the world to enact regime change and bring the perpetrators to justice.

[–] mwguy 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Only one side categorically rejects that, and it's not Israel.

[–] mwguy 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Because it hasn't happened to most of the residents of Gaza, the land Hamas administers. Gaza has had the 1967 borders since like 2004 and 1/2 the population of Gaza is below 18. So most Gazan have never had land taken from them.

[–] mwguy 9 points 2 years ago

Oh sweet summer child.

[–] mwguy -1 points 2 years ago (27 children)

Because if any conflict between people, even ones that have been resolved, can be used to justify current violence; there's no concievable violence that can ever be unjustified.

[–] mwguy -2 points 2 years ago (29 children)

That was in 1946. How many peace treaties and ceasefires have there been between them and the current conflict?

[–] mwguy -2 points 2 years ago (31 children)

Details on the hotel bombing?

[–] mwguy -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They're not decimating the whole of Palestine. They're attacking the parts that Hamas rules.

[–] mwguy 1 points 2 years ago

Since the pullout there have been a series of conflicts and ceasefire between Hamas in Gaza and Israel. So over that time they have been at peace and at war.

[–] mwguy 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I am loathe to defend hamas, but the UN stats just don't portray them as the aggressors.

Mr Dog muffins, if the Aboriginals in Australia started a campaign of war against the white Austrailians, what makes you think the casualty numbers would be less skewed there?

If Australian aboriginals started terrorising the rest of us, of course we would use reasonable force to bring that to a stop. If we decided that peaceful solutions had been exhausted,

Well congrats now you're doing the same thing Israel is doing. Peaceful solutions with Hamas have been exhausted.

I can assure you other countries wouldn't be sending us billions of dollars worth of hardware with which to exterminate them.

How would you feel if we sent billions of dollars of Aid to the people trying to genocide you instead? What if we continued to commit billions in aid in the form of materials we knew were being used to create weapons to indiscriminately kill Australians. And then we condemned you for trying to stop that miltilitary aid?

The good news is, for countries like ours; we don't have to pretend to sit up on our high horse like the Europeans do. We have complicated, often evil histories with our colonized populations. But as much as we can and should call out that history as evil, as genocide; we should also know that you can't answer a genocide with genocide.

[–] mwguy -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's such a simplification of human interaction that I'm not sure there's a single conflict I'm human history that fully fits that definition.

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