mwguy

joined 2 years ago
MODERATOR OF
[–] mwguy -1 points 2 years ago

No, they crossed the internationally recognized 1967 borders (which are in effect on the Gaza Strip) to commit this attack. Israel (specifically Israeli's left wing coalition) pulled all of its settlers and settlements out of Gaza in 2004,5 and established the 1967 borders to try to demonstrate that pulling back to the '67 borders would lead to peace and would be worth it to do so to establish a Palestinian state.

[–] mwguy -1 points 2 years ago

If the government of the West Bank was organizing this violence I'd be a lot more understanding of the violence.

[–] mwguy 1 points 2 years ago

Ya he's part of the party that wants to assimilate the West Bank and Gaza. The parties that wanted a two state solution have been out of power since their "prove it" move to establish peace in the Gaza Strip backfired.

[–] mwguy -3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Which came after Hamas took over the territory and committed itself to eliminating every Jew in the region.

[–] mwguy 16 points 2 years ago

Iran doesn't want the normalization of relations between Saudi Arabia and Israel.

[–] mwguy 3 points 2 years ago (17 children)

My question is, why the world feels the need to take sides in this conflict rather than simply condemning the violence perpetrated by both sides.

Well imagine that the native Australian population, the Aboriginals decoded they wanted their land back and started murdering all the white folk and they killed the equivalent of about 5,000 people (adjusted for Australia's population); mostly eldely and children. They restarted started a bombing campaign that threatened every inch of Australia. And they did this after ~60 years of similar actions on a smaller scale.

Would you and your countrymen submit to genocide for peace? Or would you fight back?

For you and I (USA), nations built on European Colonialism; it should be clear why that Colonialism was wrong but why it can't be undone. Trying to correct past atrocities with a modern genocide isn't acceptable and the last 20 years of Hamas's rule in Gaza has shown that Genocide is all it will accept.

[–] mwguy 2 points 2 years ago (20 children)

Then you should be practical enough to realize that almost none of what was said about Palestinians in that statement describes Israel now.

[–] mwguy -1 points 2 years ago

It's not a war crime though. That's the point. They're not specifically targeting civillians. They're targeting dual use infrastructure.

[–] mwguy 0 points 2 years ago (33 children)

My bad. Imagine civilians killed in the original slave raid weren't Jewish.

[–] mwguy -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Do you know how and why wp rounds get used? You mark a target with wp rounds and now it has an IR signature. So your artillery round can be a single "smart" round that hits your target.

Without wp you'd need to send dozens of rounds in to only probabilistically hit your target and if there was unexpected wind or pressure you might need to try multiple times. That would level whole neighborhoods and sometimes would level them as a "miss".

People talk about wp rounds like they're mustard gas or something. It's a wp round per target or it's 10-40 artillery rounds per target.

[–] mwguy 1 points 2 years ago

There definitely is a logistics issue especially for perishable goods. It's not like sufficient rail exists from Kansas to Mozambique and we can just ship a refrigerated boxcar of chicken there.

[–] mwguy -3 points 2 years ago (22 children)

Most of what you've said about Palestinians also describes israel now? Seems that way anyway.

The .de is showing.

view more: ‹ prev next ›