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These programs literally produce more money than they consume

Is there research you can provide to back that up?

Again, I'm all for it. But being devil's advocate here, I just want some evidence.

Well jeez. I wasn't saying I'm against it. I'd love to see it happen.

I don't know of any success stories of it working at scale. I mean, countries using it at scale. Not cities or provinces. I was a part of the short lived pilot program in Ontario before it was axed. Axing it completely fucked me over. It worked. It worked great. I was about to invest in starting a business.

But you know exactly what the opposition will say, right? "How can we afford it?". Even Trudeau said he saw no path to it. So really, I was just echoing what was already said, sure - but if it keeps getting cancelled then the public will have a sour taste.

Agreed!

I like the rays of light.

What cards does this nipple have? None.

Canada has freedom. America doesn't anymore. Canadians are never going to agree to rolling back their rights and freedoms for a has been country headed by a fucking dictator wannabe. Canadians will die before anything like that comes to pass. Canada may be no match militarily, but now that Canadians are aware of the dangers .. that won't be the case forever. Unless of course they decide to invade Canada right now.. Not likely.

It will be very tough. Hell, it already is. Maybe the american people will at some point finally do something about it? I personally don't want anyone to go through any of this crap, but here we are. All self inflicted, too.

I wonder what would happen if the world just kind of ignored him? Imagine that... Just do what China's doing. No interaction. No deals, no negotiations. Just silent chuckling and finger pointing with whiskey's in hand.

He's on more platforms than just youtube, I'm sure. I don't follow the nutcase, but I have bumped into a lot of people that enjoy his message. 8+ million subscribers still a metric fuck tonne of people watching him. I mean, come on.. that's a lot of people.

At the same time, though, I think it's important to not ignore him and his message. He's got a fucking HUGE following of young men hell bent on believing everything he says. It will make a big difference come election day. If people start thinking (which they seem to be) that Carney is a for sure thing - the liberals will lose. Complacency is real in the country. Even in the face of the threats we see now, I remain fearful that people will stay home. So, Vote. Everyone VOTE

And at the risk of being a jerk — you should feel scared.

No, no jerk alert there. I agree and have been scared of what might/is come/coming. If it ever does happen, there will be no winners in it, really. Just a lot of bloodshed for no reason but a few people deciding it should be.

I guess I hold out some hope that the people and military to our south will in some way stop it. Though, hope is fading.

This all feels very bizarre and scary. What if we do cut them off? You wrote it yourself:

they need our minerals, water, trees, and our energy. We don’t need them for anything.

What will happen when they are choked? After all, they are a superpower with a military that can run us over. I know there's talk about NATO and article 5. But, are we sure our allies want to go toe to toe with a superpower? Is Canada worth it for them?

There is great uneasiness in me about all of this because it just seems like negotiations are there to just string us along until they decide enough is enough.