seedling

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[–] seedling@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago

That's basically how federated software has to work. Without defederation, running federated software becomes unusable. Either you get overrun by spammers or you become legally liable for illegal content from other servers if you don't do anything about it (the beehaw admins mentioned someone posting child porn as being one reason for defederation). Lemmy is clearly in its early days but this kind of thing will become way more common, as it is on more mature fediverse platforms.

Email providers are a good example of federated software. They have to make sure nobody is sending spam or malware or they will get federated, and they can be very aggressive about that.

Ultimately if you don't want defederation to ever happen, you want a centralized system run by a single organization. Those are your options.

Or you can have the government step in and have a very highly regulated system like for telephony, where almost nobody gets to run an instance, which seems unlikely in this case.

[–] seedling@beehaw.org 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Defederation is a key feature of the fediverse. This is probably the politest defederation I've ever seen. I'm glad this is the first on Lemmy because if this kind of thing bothers people, they'll be in for a rude awakening once we get some real defederation drama.

And you can't have federated software without defederation, just wait till someone starts setting up massive numbers of throwaway spambot accounts

 

I don't have a space for a garden so I spent a lot of time this spring going out and looking at the wildflowers

This was from about a month and a half ago. I never get tired of California Poppies

[–] seedling@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

ha, if it turns out anything like mastodon, it'll be the medium to small instances that have the biggest amount of defederation drama. This whole thing is the most amicable defederation I've ever seen.

Small instances have otherwise been good for mastodon though

[–] seedling@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

We've had a lot of success with that model on mastodon, as well as the sort of hub-and-spoke model where you have a larger instance (like beehaw) and a number of smaller instances that primarily interact with the larger instance and with each other. Location specific instances are also great for discussion, for telling people about events in their area, etc.

You could always start pretty small - basically if you could get enough people who want to have a Tuscon-specific community and who can be active, you could start a solid community, and probably survive off of relatively small donations at first. Once you've got a solid seed community it could be easier to grow from there.

I personally run (with a friend) a mastodon instance which is only for me and people we know IRL. While it's not what you want in the long term, it could be a good starting place while you figure out how to get everything set up and figure out how many resources you'll need and what funding you'd need. That way you don't have to solve every problem at once - you can open it up more once you're sure you have a solid foundation.

[–] seedling@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

I think you can ignore the "pending" thing.

I did just learn that if you're the first one on your server to subscribe to a community, you'll only see new posts from that point forward and not old ones

 

I've managed to subscribe to https://beehaw.org/c/osr@lemm.ee. I've checked that we are federating with lemm.ee. When I go to the original community, I see that there are a bunch of comments on posts, but I'm seeing none of them.

I know in Mastodon there can be some issues with not seeing posts from people that nobody you know follows, but since you don't follow people, can that be an issue here?

Is this just something where I need to give the server some time for all the data to propagate?

Is this at all related to the fact that all my subscriptions to external communities are "pending" (which otherwise doesn't seem to be a problem?)

Also, while I'm at it, is there a trick to adding communities from kbin that nobody else on here is following?

[–] seedling@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Itch is great, I'll second that recommendation. It also has some really indie stuff you can't find anywhere else. I think it's DRM free in the way GOG is, in that the platform doesn't support DRM. A good number of games are free, and some are open source as well.

Also it has tabletop RPGs!

[–] seedling@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do snakes like knitwear? Is it still cozy if you're cold-blooded?

[–] seedling@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

I've seen temporary ones in libraries. Like they're only on certain days but are somewhat regular

[–] seedling@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I guess if this is the aromantic thread, I'm curious: how long did it take people to figure out they're aromantic? I realized I was queer at like 12 but it took till my 30s to realize I was aromantic, maybe cause I didn't know that was a thing until then and I thought I was just, like, failing to live up to my responsibility to find myself a relationship

[–] seedling@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

there are some, but they tend to quickly become spam and nazi instances. I'm guessing even those ones defederate from the instances that only serve malware though

[–] seedling@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hi everyone! I was born in Canada, live in the US, and Asian and mixed race. I'm generally a little vague about my real world identity online though beyond that. You can find me here on Mastodon: https://dice.camp/@seedling although it's basically all my TTRPG stuff.

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