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Good billionaires would be buying out politicians to bribe them to pass laws that are beneficial to society and buying out companies to pay their workers more and be less damaging to the environment.

But...they don't because that's a fantasy like the idea that a person with super powers would act like Superman as opposed to becoming a tyrant like Homelander.

Tankies are facists. More I see of them more I realize they are non US MAGA. Both leaning towards being ultranationalists with love for cult of personality leaders, authoritarian governments, and one party.

Only real difference is healthcare, but the shared love of preferring to trust in what they hope is a benevolent dictator to tell them what to do and get rid of their enemies is a common goal. Neither seems to actually want a government that fears the people that can easily replace leaders they dislike or abuse their power.

Hard to call it propaganda when so many red flags had to be intentionally ignored to justify voting for them even if there was one stance you liked about them. Its why you heard so much gas lighting from supporters of its just a joke. You are over reacting. You are just a doomer. TDS.

They knew all the negatives about him. Its why they put so much effort into downplaying it.

I don't like facism whether it is the US or China. I hate dictatorships. I hate for life presidents. I hate one party governments. I hate having to trust in the idea of a benevolent dictatorship. I want a government that fears the people and leaderships can be easily replaced as opposed to becoming centralized under one person because fuck kings.

Thanks to your comment I just realized tankies are basically MAGA overseas. Both share love of dictatorships and are ultranationalists who fall heavy into the cult of personality, and also drink the koolaid just as hard as MAGA do about what the dear leader and party tells them to believe.

I don't even want to talk to you and you aren't even as unpleasant as those who support maga ideals, so your whole just talk it out has been a failure from the onset. But, if you believe maga is even easier to talk it out and change their minds then go at it.

You aren't even doing a good job of getting non Trump supporters to agree with you.

And if you don't see supporting someone who wants to be a dictator, wants to get rid of minorities, hires white nationalists like Hegseth, threatens Canada's independence, bombs Venezuelan boats, and has ties to the files as not evil then what exactly is evil to you?

Because a person who endorses that type of person and only complains when they are financially affected, but were happily cheering on the policies before hand sure seem evil to me. This isn't like some disagreement about which food is better. What they fundamentally were in support of is red flags.

How do we even know if they are actually reformed and won't go and vote for the next Trump who they believe will be more strategic about who they hurt so the right kind of people are left unaffected?

Expressing disapproval of Trump doesn't mean they disagree with many of the things he is doing, since he has so far been truthful on all the things he said he'd do starting with wanting to be a dictator and Project 2025. Nothing is a surprise.

Only surprise is they thought only illegals and minorities would be affected, and that's still something they want.

If she saw the future she'd still vote for Trump. The core ideology is something she agrees with and is happy with many of the policies being carried out. She's just not happy about the random way it is being carried out that is leading to collateral damage to groups of her kind that weren't supposed to be affected.

You can't even bring together people who aren't on Trump sides, so you are failing on your messaging from the start when it comes to your big proclamation of talking it out.

She hasn't changed. She'll vote for the next Trump who they believe will be more surgical when it comes to hurting people they don't like. This is her basically telling the party to reduce the collateral damage. The ideology that brought her to support them hasn't changed.

I don't even get why they chose TDS. I like most people assumed it meant Trump supporters being deranged when they first saw it. Not the smartest choice to choose a phrase that requires them to explain they don't mean them.