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Is there any particular reason why that whole area is not a parking lot, so that people can park, walk their kids and then walk back to their cars and leave? Do they absolutely have to drive them up to the door?

Oh but they will get lazy. They will be lobbied in fact to get lazy.

Exactly this. Interestingly, while in "those" places the government is incapable of organizing public transit, in US, the government chooses not to. It's like learned helplessness at the society level.

Is local democracy functional in that city? Or is it one of those places where incumbents have made themselves impossible to remove?

If you look at our discussion you might notice that at no point have I singled out Israel as the only possible perpetrator. We are literally discussing this in the thread below an article about the American government making genocidal plans. Between Trumpist USA and the far right current Israeli government, an escalation is not inconceivable. It is true however that thankfully there are multiple actors, from the Europeans to the Egyptians and Jordanians for example, who would not easily allow something like this to happen. But then again, if the world order is blown up in WW3, anything is possible and these kinds of plans would become much less unworkable... Which is why calling them out and not letting them be normalized now is very important.

You guys don't get it. It is like public transportation but with the following "features":

1. No poors.
2. Owner can exclude anyone they don't like
3. No job security/unionization for the staff

I am not making prophecies. I am not predicting the future. I am specifically writing:

When people defend or downplay proposals to forcibly remove an entire population [...] the comparison isn’t extreme. It’s cautionary.

Do you understand what that phrase means? Do you understand what the word "cautionary" means?

This sounds like a contrived meta objection to me. Antisemitism-as-prejudice (footnote) lives in entirely in the brain of the perpetrator. The person you know was mistaken for jewish, in the mind of the perpetrator is jewish, and is being persecuted and killed for being jewish. EDIT: for that matter, a convinced Nazi would probably argue that no mistakes were made and if someone is "jewy enough to be mistaken for jewish, then they are jewish enough to be sent to the trains". I'm going to immerse myself in betadine now for having written that phrase, yuck. Like in the perverted Nazi brain "jewishness" is a taint that must be aggressively expunged, regardless of niceties and nuances and stuff.

(footnote: as opposed to antisemitism-as-system)

In a few years, perplexed Israelis will be trying to explain the next round of violence with "they hate us because we're Jewish".

You're not engaging with what I’m actually saying, so this is the last you hear from me.

You said: “Nazis wanted to kill them all, not move them further away.” I pointed out that’s historically inaccurate. They started by trying to move them. They ended by killing them. That evolution of intent matters. Genocide isn’t a light switch, it’s a dimmer. And it always starts with the “just move them away” stage.

This isn’t about scoring points. It’s about understanding how atrocities actually unfold.

You keep insisting I’m making “extreme” comparisons. But all I’ve done is point to a well-documented historical pattern: the Nazis didn’t begin with gas chambers. They started with deportation plans, ghettos, and forced removals. That’s not hyperbole: it’s basic historiography.

You’re also still conflating intent with outcome. You said the Nazis “wanted to kill them all,” as if that was the plan from the outset. It wasn’t. The policy evolved over time. That’s the entire point — and it’s exactly why early-stage actions do matter.

When people defend or downplay proposals to forcibly remove an entire population (not in the chaos of war, but as formal policy) the comparison isn’t extreme. It’s cautionary.

You can roll your eyes if you want. But history doesn’t start at Wannsee. And it doesn’t repeat itself with a neon sign saying “genocide incoming.” It creeps.

And that “weed is a gateway drug” analogy? It’s off. A better one would be: “Heroin addiction doesn’t start with heroin — it starts with normalized misuse of something seemingly minor.” That’s the progression I’m talking about.

Anyway. I’ve said my piece. History’s just not on your side here, buddy.

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It might take some time, but the perpetrators of this genocide will be brought to justice.