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I think it's time to put a rest to the Bagent QB1 talk. He is a decent backup and game manager but the talent JF1 has puts Bagent to rest. Again, I like Bagent as a long-term backup but by no means is he our QB1 of the present of future

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Chicago Bears (2-5) at Los Angeles Chargers (2-4)

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Bear down, Bears nation!

Whatever rerun the network is showing could never see the numbers that even the least exciting game could hit this week.

Why do fox and cbs sometimes just not show games?

Arm sleeves, wigs and home made bagent t-shirts!! We are going to be heard in SoFi!

I've been a hardcore Fields guy since he was at OSU. But why not Tyson? The bears could potentially draft MHJ and Fashanu with an opportunity at a haul for a small trade back, so why not? I mean suddenly the bears would potentially have one of the best offenses (at least on paper). can't an efficient smart QB run that really well? I don't know for sure if Bagent is that guy but Hurts and many of the other top QBS where not "the guy” maybe build an incredible team and the draft the 3rd best QB or whatever next year. Fields is going to get paid big, look at Danny dimes. This path lets the bears pay a top edge and still draft more defensive talent. Thoughts?

On a kick by our good old friend Pinero.

https://x.com/markgrotesports/status/1718673110759596508?s=20

Makes the week 1 loss sting a little more but Jordan Love has not looked promising.

Their offense looks so bad right now.

The GB at CAR game looks like the most winnable game on the Panthers' schedule.

I wouldn't be surprised if GB traded away some defensive players before the deadline.

I was curious on how each performed vs ranked teams in college and looked up their stats. I am tired of hearing how much better Williams is as a prospect compared to Fields when he is mainly beating up on lowly teams, while struggling more against proper opponents. Spoiler alert, the NFL will have a good opponent every week.

Fields (2019, 2020) faced 11 ranked teams, the average of the rank of teams was 10.45. His stats are below:

Cmp Pct: 63.17 (avg)

Yds: 254.60 (avg)

TD: 27 (total)

Int: 9 (total)

Rating: 160.01 (avg)

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Williams (2022, 2023) I omitted his freshman year to keep it as comparable as possible. He has faced 7 ranked teams so far, the avg rank of those teams being 15.54. Stats below:

Cmp Pct: 68.72

Yds: 304.55

TDs: 17

Int: 6

Rating: 145.74

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As it stands now, Williams will face 3 more ranked teams, so these numbers will change, but a few things stood out to me:

1.) Fields faced higher ranked teams than Williams has and has very comparable stats

2.) Fields has a higher rating vs ranked teams than Williams has (If Williams goes nuts vs the upcoming ranked teams, this gap could close)

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To conclude, I do not believe for a second that Williams is a "Generational Prospect". He beats up on lowly teams, and plays in a QB friendly offense under a highly regarded QB friendly HC. I am not a football analyst by any means, but I really feel strongly in my gut that Williams will be an above avg QB in the NFL at best. I do not think he can save the Bears to the extent needed to warrant a #1 pick. Fields was just as good as a prospect coming out of college and the stats back it up. I like Fields. I want him to be the guy. If he isn't then he isn't, but I do not want this team to take a slightly different version of him expecting different results. I know these comparisons are not completely apples to apples, but this is what he have. I am sure some NFL Data guys have stats that may refute my findings completely, but numbers aside, the "eye test" is a real metric and Williams, especially these past few games has not passed that test.

Go ahead and roll the list of starting QBs since 2000 or whatever, but the truth is that not only have the Bears had bad starting QB play relative to the rest of the league, if anything their backups have been even worse in comparison to other teams. Your chances to win a game with an average QB might be 50%, and with a backup drop to 25%. But with Nathan Peterman or late-career Foles, it was 5% or less. The backup QB position needs to be thought of as a whole separate auxiliary spot on the roster, like KR or longsnapper or something. The starter WILL go down at some point in the season, your backup will get some reps.

That's why it's so important to have a guy you can trust behind center, and I'm excited what Fields can do in the role, even if Bagent gets hurt.