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Personally, Gaza and his anti-railway workers union action was enough to destroy any credibility he had so far.

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[–] booty@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but if you truly understood it you would realize that voting for Biden is exactly as useful as sitting right where you are.

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

So to truly understand that this electoral system is a complete failure is to do nothing? Or is there an alternative I can do that you haven't mentioned yet? I have seen a lot of people argue against voting like this "because it's worthless" or "because it supports genocide" while I have yet to see anyone propose something to do that is more actionable or directly effective than voting.

[–] Yllych@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Better than voting would be to join a communist party and work towards dual power, especially in your workplaces/unions

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I don’t see how that’s “better than voting.” Why are the two things worth comparing? Why can’t I do both? What makes voting inherently bad?

[–] Yllych@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

It is better than voting because you will help create the world in which we no longer have to choose between red or blue genocide, and more importantly no longer need to hash these dumb online arguments every 2 years

[–] Beetle_O_Rourke@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Voting for a genocide means that you are perfectly fine with getting your turn in the ovens later on.

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I can see you’re very capable of complex and nuanced thought -_-

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

Stupid people like to look at simple issues and pretend they're more complex than they are, so that they can feel smart.

Not supporting genocide isn't complex, you're just an idiot

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How many dead kids will it take for you to vote 3rd party?

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Wait am I supposed to vote or supposed to not vote? I was under the impression that not voting is how we save the lives of kids

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

Can't answer a simple question? How many kids?

[–] Beetle_O_Rourke@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You believe in nothing and will get the reward a traitor deserves: a mouthful of ashes in your time of greatest need.

pigpoop

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Just gonna say it’s really hard not to draw comparisons between the rhetoric I see across Hexbear and the rhetoric I saw on r/the_donald back in 2016. I’m not saying that as a judgment on the quality of ideas because there’s definitely a lot more communal-focused thought on Hexbear, but fucking hell for being a community that’s notably communist you all give zero shits about being a community that’s inviting to other people

[–] Beetle_O_Rourke@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't give a fuck about what a genocide denier has to say, fuck off liberal.

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Correct, that’s what I just said

[–] booty@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

You could do both. The thing to recognize is that voting is nothing. Nothing is accomplished by voting.