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I'm so tired of living in a world of impending doom. This is hell.
And they know how to fucking fix it but don't want to
It'd be like if in the movie Armageddon the government just said "Eh let's see if it really will be that bad if it hits us"
So Don't Look Up.
That movie felt way too real watching it.
Yes but without the part where they tried
We haven't gotten to that point yet
Without some sort of violent revolution, we won't, or time runs out but it's not a movie and there's no ship to another planet.
Great. That's exactly what we need now - more violence
Revolutions take over where reason stops. The people in power have the means to do the right thing, but sometimes they look out for a few people and will destroy thousands. That's not a good option, as people get more desperate
Climate change is not something that has a simple solution to it and governments just refuse to do so for whatever reason. That's a naive view that ignores all the complexity of this issue.
For example: stopping all carbon emissions is not going to stop climate change. Not only do you need to become carbon-neutral but you also need to get all the excessive carbon out of the atmosphere. How?
Why the extreme? Cutting back and investing in things that are better should be a mandate, not an idea or option. And certainly we cannot allow an administration to roll things backwards just because someone ~~bribed them~~ donated to their campaign
If there's ever a time when it's justified, it's when our very existence is at stake.
Climate change is not an existential threat to humanity
To humanity? Probably not. To billions of people? Definitely yes.
This is because you're not sorting your recycling!
"We could do something about the asteroid, but think of the harm doing something could do to the shareholders!?"
I was going to save humanity but I have a responsibility to a handful of shareholders that yell at me in meetings so... You can really see how hard this is for me
Only "they" is actually "us". We voted those clowns into office. We knew (or should have known, the information was available) better at least since the 1970s.
Dude our election system is so fucked, I put that mostly on greedy corporations. But yeah, there's no shortage of blame to go around.
Yes, there's a group of people who would rather make members who vote a certain way sad than save their own lives. I don't get it
From FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME to let me lick those boots while you tell me what I should be outraged about.
It's actually kind of too late now.
But, we may be able to prevent more bad stuff happening if we change things today!
IDK, I mean we know it's to do with carbon but we don't really know how to stop producing that in a timely manner.
Yes we do. Carbon tax.
Carbon is causing global warming. We know how to fix global warming because we are causing it, we just have to stop doing it.
This article is about global cooling which is bizarre and not something we expected would be happening. We haven't got a clue why it's doing that. It maybe natural, or it maybe it's something we've done in a complicated way, but we don't know so we don't know how to fix it.
If this is just an ice age why may as well burn all the coal now to try and stave it off.
Although in reality I think this needs a lot more research before we do anything because this announcement makes no sense within our current understanding of the environmental science.
Umm, no. Go read it again.
Global warming shuts off the current, so the warm air doesn’t shuttle north, causing local cooling, not global
Good news! Soon the doom won't be impending!
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I haven't myself, but I hear it makes it all worth it.
It’s on my to-do list.
Not yet, but I already elected ultra-capitalist parties to make sure not to stop the exploitation, so I can become the exploiter eventually :-)
I just long for a time when the conspiracy theorists are yelling about the end of the world and the scientists are running the country, not the other way around.
The doom depends on where you live. Florida? Yup, probably, but you where already living in hell. Europe? Iced up North Sea, really snowy north, big ice caps, Spain and portugal getting more cool...doesn't sound that bad, to me personally.
Michigan's Upper Peninsula is one of the places least likely to be affected by climate change, based on current models. In the US anyway.
Mostly florida, as the "AMOC" transports the heat away from florida. Could very well be, that a stoppage of the AMOC would create a Hypercane and completely wreck everything in Florida. Cuba could also be absolutely done for. Canada would also probably have a LOT more snow - the Soutpole however would probably stop existing and what exactly is going to happen to Brazil is a complete unknown. Some simulations show the insta death of the rest of the rain forest. Some simulations actually show the opposite. However, Europe, Africa and Asia probably would see a lot lower temps - what exactly that would mean for the Climate in those areas is also highly speculative - however, it's something that happened quite often throughout the history of earth. North America however has lots of other parts liveable, when Florida is "dead" and basically the Sahara.
Happened quite often in the past…over the course of thousands of years. Man-made global warming is a very different animal.
No, the collapse of the AMOC was pretty rapid in the past as well. And it's separate from climate change. Man-made global warming is very complex and there are various things contributing to it.
Clearly a coincidence.
You are the first person I've seen recognize the legitimate fear that these climate issues could result in hypercanes.
Hurricanes of a size and fury as to not be measurable on current scale, Whose devastation could stretch across half a continent.
Thats one way to stop carbon emissions!
What? I moved to the nordics so that I'd be living in a tropical paradise soon, now there's going to be more snow?