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Researchers have predicted the collapse of the AMOC could happen any time between 2025 and 2095 — far sooner than previous predictions, although not all scientists are convinced.

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[–] starship_lizard@programming.dev 193 points 2 years ago (14 children)

I'm so tired of living in a world of impending doom. This is hell.

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Good news! Soon the doom won't be impending!

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[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago (13 children)

And they know how to fucking fix it but don't want to

It'd be like if in the movie Armageddon the government just said "Eh let's see if it really will be that bad if it hits us"

[–] 1bluepixel@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 17 points 2 years ago

That movie felt way too real watching it.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Yes but without the part where they tried

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[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Have you tried being absurdly wealthy?

I haven't myself, but I hear it makes it all worth it.

[–] brcl@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago

It’s on my to-do list.

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[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

I just long for a time when the conspiracy theorists are yelling about the end of the world and the scientists are running the country, not the other way around.

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[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 103 points 2 years ago (53 children)

but other scientists are not so sure.

Is it just me who thinks we should act as if it is going to collapse soon, even if a few scientists aren't sure?

[–] CosmicSploogeDrizzle@lemmy.world 153 points 2 years ago (5 children)

But what if it's all a hoax and we make the world a better place for no reason?

[–] Jamie@jamie.moe 74 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Won't someone think of the shareholders?

[–] Awthatsnotright@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

I am never going to recover financially from this.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think it's more 99.9% of the scientists think it will get proper fucked up in the 2100s, but this one report says it'll happen in the next few years.

But we should be doing something about it anyway.

If we actually cared we'd ban everything that's fucking the world up, and ban any imports from countries that don't agree. But if the last 5 years or so have told us anything, it's that a lot of people don't care. Even about things that directly affect them.

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[–] virr@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (5 children)

TL;DR: New statistical model suggests that the AMOC (including gulf stream) could collapse to the much slower pattern by 2025 to 2095. This is a century earlier than previous predictions and the researchers were concerned. There is some questions on the accuracy of the model used, and that needs more research.

Personally I don't think we should wait for further testing to vet the model before acting. Try to do better now.

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[–] RHSJack@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (3 children)

We could try to vote people who will take action OR incentivize consumers to be more proactive BUT. Neither is ever going to happen.

I was having dinner with my brother's family and we were watching an interview with some celebrity that my sister-in-law adores. Dude is heavy in green activism and lists fast food places which are bad actors for climate and also farmers rights, etc. So my SiL announces we are never eating at such and such place again (I can't remember, I never eat fast food anyway). The very next night they order takeout from said fast food place. They also always order same day deliver from Amazon despite it never actually arriving same day, but they get packages every damn day. Tons and tons of packaging for crap they always throw out or give away to neighbors eventually. This isn't unique to them.

This is MOST of America and I suspect the rest of the developed world. We are effed.

[–] Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

cant elect people in america who would do anything, when we're busy trying to fend off full blown fourth reichdom by electing the least awful candidate each election.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

I posted this twice now.

But carbon taxes, externality corrections, cost of recycling plastic is in the cost of the product. Let the market fix it all. But no, people won't even agree to raise taxes on fuel

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[–] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Goodbye Iceland my old friend.

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[–] jayemar@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I made a poster about this for an assignment when I was primary school, like 18 years ago. Ffs

[–] Kandorr@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

We should have listened, but your poster was washed from the main stream media!

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 years ago

Title gore.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If anyone wants to read more about AMOC, here is a description from NASA along with the NASA illustration that was in the article:

June 5, 2023

BRIEF: As the ocean warms and land ice melts, ocean circulation — the movement of heat around the planet by currents — could be impacted. Research with NASA satellites and other data is currently underway to learn more.

Edit: climate.nasa.gov is fantastic for this kind of stuff, btw. They have tons of data from their satellites you can download, visualizations, videos, charts, graphics, tutorials...just all sorts of things. It's very cool.

[–] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

As long as we finally get colder weather and snow in Germany again, I'm all for it. No, not really because it's horrible but I try to see the positive things.

[–] astral_avocado@programming.dev 15 points 2 years ago

You might like the weather but you'll have some issues with an utterly collapsed food chain

[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago

I can remember a time when elon musk was still saying smart things... like if there's even a 1% chance of it destroying the planet. We should do everything to avoid it.

[–] Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

did we see this movie already?

[–] rusticus1773@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Let's make another one! Except this time make it a documentary!

[–] WeebLife@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

insert meme of sitting inside house burning down "this is fine"

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