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That includes the democratic party.
We agree. We have about 3 years until the next presidential election cycle, maybe, and we either need to challenge the Democratic party, or improve it.
Instead of pessimism, do you have any ideas?
1000%, let's encourage people to vote in democratic primaries anytime we see this "both sides" sentiment. Thank you!
I agree on every point, though I do feel like alternative parties to the Democrats can be successful in local and state elections, much like how the tea party has found some successes in more local politics. And I would say if locally people start successfully voting in more progressive alternatives, it will result in irrefutable proof that progressive policies are the winning move.
But, that starts local. It starts small, not big. And it starts where politicians impact you the most, your local community.
I think that's appropriately cautious. It may be more safe and feasible in solidly blue cities/towns/districts, and it will have to get a lot more support than the tea party did for it to have any hope at spreading to "battleground" elections without serious risk.
Let's encourage progressives to actually run.
We’ve been telling them to move further left than further center for years, and yet they wonder why they keep losing elections.
There's a lot of reasons they're losing election. One of the least of which is that they are too far right.
Full disclosure I am anarchist/anarco communist. Yes democrats should move left. But it isn't some sort of Panacea that would see them suddenly start winning elections regularly. Democrats moving left would see a lot of the party's funding evaporated. Which on one hand would be good. Because a lot of that funding is coming from some of the worst people. But on the other hand. Campaigns have been made very expensive. It would put Democrats at a distinct disadvantage, and see them losing just as much if not more than they already are. Without that money. Yet it is still the lazy go to answer.
The truth is Democrats don't even need to move left one iota to start winning again. All it needs to happen is for us to stop leaving everything to National leadership. Which is bought and owned. Completely disconnected from all constituency other than the donors. We need to revitalize state democratic parties. Have them take leadership back.
Small donations only.
Absolutely. Political funding is broken thanks in large part to citizens United. Campaign finance reform certainly should be a campaign item for any progressive candidate.
I have ideas about a targeted solution that would leave about 99.5% of the population better off, and provide the other 0.5% a peace they prove constantly on no uncertain terms by how they live they would never be capable of attaining in any other way.
I wish I was allowed to say it.
The gallows funniest bit about this whole situation is that the ones perpuating it aren't happy either, even in victory. They could have 50 quadrillion dollars and their own space station mansion, and they still wouldn't be satisfied, because our civilization rewards a very specific kind of dangerous mental illness.
They should be getting care in secure mental health facilities to keep society safe from their avarice, the kind they defunded for tax cuts through captured government.
We have a year and a half to reform the Democrats before the midterm elections. If they win then just because of pure backlash without reform, they'll take it as a neoliberal status quo mandate and use it as an excuse to sleepwalk into entrenched fascism even more.
In this thread I've had two separate people mention the major problem with campaign finance or money in politics. And I think I have to agree, part of the reason that the Democrats are so disappointing because they serve the same masters.
Maybe that could be a concentrated goal and and the rallying cry for the Democrats approaching the midterms, that you shouldn't even try to run on the Democratic ticket unless you're going to push for campaign finance reform that ends citizens united. That might be a big enough change to start improving our democratic system.
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