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[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 96 points 4 months ago (25 children)

Imagine you buy a car and it gets burned down because the owner of the car company turns out to be a Nazi.

I would like Tesla to go bankrupt too but cheering on regular peoples property being destroyed is wrong.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 50 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sure, I have some sympathy for those who bought them years ago.

But let's not mince words. If you buy a Tesla today, you are literally a Nazi collaborator.

Those who bought a Tesla much earlier were more like one of those few people who bought one of Hitler's paintings during his starving artist phase.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 16 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I think Tesla owners should put anti elon stickers on theirbcars

[–] schnapsman@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I saw this the other day, in north Germany

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[–] techclothes@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Hopefully they had bubble insurance and now they're freed of their magamobile and can buy something better.

[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah because insurance companies are run by great people who are known for helping others.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 7 points 4 months ago

This is Europe, not USA. We are not getting fucked by insurance companies on a daily basis - only weekly basis.

[–] thmnwlf@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

the magamobile… i know it has its issues, but the sad thing is, if you want an electric car as a person who does not care about car-people-things, the magamobile is one of the best options in terms of efficiency. ALSO in terms of used vehicles, you can get teslas so bloody cheap rn and for people who just want to get from A to B with Comfort and ease, you dont have so many other options.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At some point you have to draw a line, and the car sold by the guy who’s directly helping to destroy the US, helping the AFD in Germany get more power, and cutting aid to so many other countries which will lead to millions of deaths is a pretty fucking easy line to draw. Besides, as the saying goes, “electric cars aren’t here to save the planet, they’re here to save cars” so take public transit and fight for it if you don’t have it(also this is in Germany and Europe generally has more options than the backwater that is the US).

There are plenty of other options that aren’t so boldly rotten as Tesla, too. People not wanting even the slightest inconvenience is how we get into these messes and it’s time to buck up and deal with it.

[–] thmnwlf@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago

yea because public transport works everywhere perfectly fine and people who have to use a car they bought because they cant afford buying a new one as a political statement can go fuckoff! sounds like a perfect plan.

not buying new teslas/try to boycott the company should be the line imo. not judging people that make use if something they already have! if you have a thing, use it as long as it freaking works is one of the most sustainable things you can do lol or do you mean using a magic wand and make the problems go away with “buck up and deal with it”?

nobody says that electric cars save the planet (beside maga idiots), also public transport wont save the planet alone bro.

if you have an bicycle that will save the planet more than public transport. if you have an electric car thats charged by sustainable energy that will save the planet more than some fucked up diesel engine.

your statement is just way to far off by fucking reality.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

Imagine parking next to a Tesla and your car becomes collateral damage.

[–] Kiliyukuxima@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Totally agree and the fucker already got the money. They are just fucking other people's lives. However, we can agree that if you think you're buying a car that someone is going to burn down, then that's a good deterrent to buy them. So I can also see the positive side of things. And all these cars are probably insured against vandalism anyway

[–] Zeon@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Sometimes sacrifices have to be made to get the message across.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

also buying a car knowing that elon is a nazi makes the buyers complicit as well.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it could've caught fire on its own, it's a tesla.

you should've known that when you bought the car too, before you knew about the nazism.

[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah ICE cars catch fire 61x more often than EVs.

Facts are important. We want people to switch to EVs. Spreading falsehoods because it helps your own side short term is wrong.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

no we don't. we want people to switch to public transit

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

No. Both can be true.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

ICE cars are filled with gasoline and function by blowing it up, the risk is clear. EVs should not be catching fire.

Also yea, I want people to use public transportation, actually. And I want villages to return, not these horrendous sprawling “small towns” where, despite having less stuff than my Montréal neighbourhood, it’s a huge pain to get anywhere and you need a car at least simply because too many jobs that could be remote aren’t.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

just to clarify I'm not talking about "EVs". I'm talking about teslas. they're famously prone to catching fire.

[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

some of them maybe? surely not all?

[–] LillaApan@feddit.org 8 points 4 months ago

You don't need insurance FOR your car. You MUST have a "Haftpflichtversicherung" - but that only covers damage done by you and your car. If you only have that, you'll get exactly 0 Euro.

Most people here have partial coverage, so if glass breaks, you get into an accident with a wild animal or you car gets stolen - and you'll get some money back.

Full coverage would also include stupid mistakes you made. As long as they are not on purpose or done by speeding, drinking and driving and stuff like that.

So yeah, most people with newer cars would have full coverage. Expensive tho. So older cars usually only have partial or none coverage - only "Haftpflichtversicherung" is a must. Without you are not allowed to have a car in traffic.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

All cars are required to have insurance in most European countries, Germany included. Not sure if collateral damage by vandalism is covered by default, but most of the time you are covered against any damage that you yourself didn't cause, so I assume it is covered.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Required insurance doesnt cover thing like that tho. It covers your liability not your car from the elements. For that you need at least partial coverage which tbh most people with Teslas probably have.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I can't speak for Germany but my car insurance wouldn't cover arson. It only covers liability, so if I cause damage or personal injury with my vehicle then my insurance kicks in and covers the other person's damages. If I wreck my car in a single vehicle collision, a tree falls on it, or someone who doesn't have insurance hits me then I get nothing. That is collision and/or comprehensive insurance that cover those situations respectively.

However I know that if I were to lease a vehicle, I would need to get comprehensive insurance as part of the lease agreement. These were probably leased so their insurance might cover it, definitely not all of those Tesla owners though.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 months ago

Not so in Austria. Only Haftpflichtversicherung is required which only covers the car owner's liability.

[–] brookdale05@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can assure you if you have a second hand 10 year old car and it burns down, you’ll get 3000€ from insurance, and good luck finding a replacement for that money.

“They have insurance” doesn’t solve all problems when you’re struggling and need a car for work.

[–] thesven@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

So you can buy another 10 years old car with that.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Civilized countries require insurance so that victims aren’t at fault and on the hook, and better ones will even provide it(the province of Québec does the liability portion, for example).

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