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Both things can be true, but it's funny that two opposite sounding replies came to this one comment about US politics.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 44 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I just wish people would stop focusing on something from the past that cannot be undone. And if you voted for Trump and regret your choice and actually have achieved empathy in the process I have no reason to make you my enemy. This is not the time to be going after each other when everyone is going to get fucked. You can silently enjoy someone's misfortune, but it's a misfortune that we will all see and experience in due time and it's not productive for the future we are all going to endure. And right now, whether you are a democrat or a republican, the rest of the world is angry at you. Nobody is going to come and save the US and we need to get our shit together and stop focusing on what can't be undone.

If you look at polling there is a significant number of republicans that are just as angry as democrats. And we need to help them so they can help us. The only thing blaming and "owning" each other is going to accomplish is that nothing will change. It's like being on a sinking ship while everyone laughs that the other guy is going to drown while making no effort to get off the boat.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Republicans made an entire industry out of hating democrats way back in the 90s. They’re not going to work with us. Ever. And every time Democrats try to work with them it has ended up badly.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Republican oligarchs aren't going to change. Republican voters can and do.

Class warfare is in full effect and the billionaires need the rest us to stay divided so that they can continue their war on us.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

People keep saying Republican voters change, but never enough of them for long enough to make a difference

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

democrats working with republicans led us to weimar joe and the appeasement era

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

time for my catchphrase. biden was the best president of my lifetime.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

which is so fucking sad. the last good president this country had was imo jimry carter. before that, probably fdr, and before that grant

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago

I don't see what jimmy carter accomplished to rate him higher than half the ones after him.

[–] Letsdothisok@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Wha.. how do yo..

Lord help us. It will be many years before I read something that stupid again...

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think this is certainly true of the Republican Party. But ignoring republican voters is political suicide. There are too many of them. They must be reckoned with, one way or another.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Republican voters cheered on the entire time.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

They cheered for the party that said they were going to improve things, while the Democrats looked at the abysmal state of America and said "Yeah, things are going well, expect more of the same".

Stealing Republican voters is a viable strategy, but the Democrats need to address the economic issues that drive those votes, not just buddy up with Republican war hawks like Harris did

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Trump only got three million more votes in 2024. Harris got six million fewer votes than Biden.

Democrats and independents sat at home because of the lack of a plan to improve things from the Dems.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

To be clear I’m not saying their behavior is harmless or excusable. But we fundamentally have to reach at least some of them, I just don’t see a way to stop what’s happening otherwise. I don’t like it but that’s the reality of the situation.

Maybe one way to avoid it would be to come to some kind of detante where the federal government more or less ceases to be the main seat of power and the states become far more autonomous. I’d be open to this but it doesn’t seem very popular or likely given that fascists won’t want to weaken their grip on power over blue states.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I just don’t see a way to stop this happening, period.

We’ve been trying to reach them for decades to no avail.

Nothing can stop this.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Username checks out lol. Many things are possible even if they don’t feel like it at the moment. And all things end sooner or later…

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 months ago

nelson mandela said "it always feels impossible until it is done" or something to that effect

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Good luck. I’m sure it will work now that they’re even more radicalized and divorced from reality.

[–] Letsdothisok@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What industry? And what happened in the 90s?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Rush Limbaugh and his ilk have been spouting bile and making bank from it for 30 years.

I’m glad he’s dead.

[–] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Deregulation of radio, end of the fairness doctrine (thank u Reagan) and the subsequent rise of "local talk radio" sponsored by evil billionaires and spouting the vilest shit imaginable.

which led directly to fox news and the tea party faction of Republicans and well, now here we are

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

The 90s was when Republicans first began the scorched earth tactics against Clinton. It was when all the conspiracy theory shit started. They planted the first seeds of populism then.

[–] Kuranashi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

No working with fascist enablers.