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[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What a stupid post. Yeah it's progressives' fault mango Mussolini is POTUS /s. This is a talking point manufactured by MAGA handlers that some broadly Dem-supporting people choose to broadcast, now outside the US. This is a type of brainrot that undermines critical thinking, divides the left, and helps elect the right. Canada deserves better

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Progressives are separate from tankies. You can have leftist ideals without supporting authoritarians.

You must understand that under first-past-the-post the party that receives the most criticism tends to lose. It's much easier to pressure democrats into doing the right thing then with republicans.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

No one calls themselves a tankie. It is a pejorative term for a progressive. It is used to silence legitimate criticism and helps right-shift politics

(Edit: I think your frustration is really more with the mainstream media and what news they choose to cover and amplify)

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's the term that describes those communists who cheered on the Soviet Union’s violent crushing of the 1956 Hungary revolution protests.

The term is often used when someone claims they support leftist ideals but pushes for authoritarianism.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I get the original etymology. Nowadays it's carelessly used and appropriated like 'woke'

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What about "lib" and "zio"?

Those are kind of new and exciting. All the kids are doing it.

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

I'm pretty sure those are used accurately as specific types of fascists.

[–] sakodak@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

the Soviet Union’s violent crushing of the 1956 Hungary revolution protests.

Did you know that was recently revealed (through Trump's jfk doc dump) to be yet another CIA backed fake color revolution?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tankie is in no way a pejorative for Progressive. Hell progressives are usually the ones using it. I wouldn't even say tankies pretend to be Progressive.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

So Bernie and AOC are tankies to you?

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's pretty easy to identify tankies. Here, I'll draw some out for you:

Mao and Stalin were just as evil as Hitler. China is engaging in a genocide of the Uyghur people. Putin is a genocidal war criminal fighting a war of imperialism.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Tankie are leftists, they are not progressives.

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[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

helps elect the right

Trump, the farthest right viable candidate, was elected because he got the most votes.

Regardless of your feelings about her, Kamala was the most viable opposition to Trump.

Some people were most active being anti-Kamala.

In your opinion, did the anti-Kamala influencers hurt Trump's election, or did they help Trump's election?

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Kamala was the most viable opposition to Trump.

You really believe that, huh?

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Who, in our shitty 2 party system, had a better chance?

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Anyone else. Throw Bernie's half animated corpse up there as the candidate. Congrats he would've won. Because he wasnt a cop trying to get elected to the anticop party, nor far right economically trying to get elected to the center right party.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The fact you're reduced her to a cop is showing you're headfirst in the koolaid

She was literally responsible for police reform. You know, shit like making them wear body cams and undergo training to recognise bias, as well as community programs to get people back into the community as opposed to branded criminals for life. You know, the shit you want to happen. And all that for one state - one of your most progressive.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/kamala-harris-police-biden-vp-pick-california-senate-a9662801.html

But over the years, she has proudly labelled herself both a “top cop” and a “progressive prosecutor”.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/12/kamala-was-a-cop-black-people-knew-it-first/

She’d even proudly declared herself California’s “top cop” in 2016 —two years after the Ferguson protests. Marcotte has things backward. In a climate where Democrats still felt they had to pander to the law-and-order crowd, “Kamala is a cop” was the nuance.

These legitimate critiques, not trolls hiding behind computer screens, gave the “Kamala is a cop” meme its power. Black Americans, who have wildly disproportionate contact with police and prisons, had cause to be wary of a presidential candidate, even a Black woman, who not only made her bones in the criminal justice system but adduced her work there to the case for her presidency. On Black Twitter, the meme was a reminder, not an explanation. Early on, Harris struggled to attract Black voters. Some were concerned about her electability, while others were truly mistrustful of her record and her promise to be the “progressive prosecutor” candidate.

https://www.c-span.org/program/campaign-2016/new-york-delegation-breakfast/450152

At 00:32:19 her speech begins, which has (via the transcript):

ELECTED FIRST WOMAN OF COLOR TO BE DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN STATE OF CALIFORNIA IN 2003. [APPLAUSE] AND I NOW STAND BEFORE YOU AS THE TOP COP OF THE BIGGEST STATE IN THE COUNTRY, NO OFFENSE ERIC SCHNEIDERMAN. [LAUGHTER]

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[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Bernie, AOC, Andrew Yang off the top of my head

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bernie is too old, didn't want to run. AOC was too young until less than a month before the general election, didn't want to run. Andrew Yang is actually kind of a weirdo in the bad take a look closer (check out the description of his Forward Party).

Anybody else?

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So you asked for who is better, but since you dont like any of them, they wont do. Rocket dragon is the decider of all things politicians guys.

You should have just said so in the first place and we coulda saved time.

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 months ago

I love Bernie and AOC both, but what's your plan, hold a gun to their head and force them to run?

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago
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[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

This is bullshit though, please actually explain how Kamala is the most viable opposition to Trump? Trump is far right, and Kamala is a centrist conservative. America is further right than you think it is, Kamala is in no way shape or form an opposition.

Kamala is right wing. Trump is further right wing, guess who is gonna win?

You mentioned opposition, then where is your opposition party? Trump is a by product, you just explained how you get fascism.

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

She was objectively much better than Trump. Hopefully in the future Americans have the single transferable vote for presidential elections so they can vote for other candidates in other parties.

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