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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago (5 children)

You can't successfully invade a country with drones and bombs. You need boots on the ground.

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That really remains to be seen, and it depends on your objective. Drones can do the precision ops bombs can't that used to be reserved by troops. Really there's not a lot of reason to waste hundreds of thousands per soldier when most of not all objectives can be handled without near human presence.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Depends on the objective. Invading a country? Drones is nothing more than a cheap air coverage.

You can send a zillion drones into battle, but the country isn't yours until you have boots on the ground and setup a foothold on the land you want to claim.

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I'm pretty sure being able to kill anyone that dissents at any time in any situation overcomes the need for boots on the ground even in an invasion or complete takeover scenario – and drone warfare has reached that stage.

[–] nilclass@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Jamming radio is pretty basic, and then the drones are useless. Unless the operator is close enough so the drone can be controlled by a cable, or visual signals

[–] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lemme introduce you to our autonomous drones: no human error involved, faster reaction time and higher precision.

[–] nilclass@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nice! It makes me feel so much better, if the error that gets me killed is not human error

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Drones can't establish a new base on captured land. Boots are the only ones that can.

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

You don't really need that, you need control of an area. That's why you put a base down. Drones can control an area without said base.

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

You're thinking too small.

Small combat drone comes in, clears the area of The Enemy™ (results may vary, consult your user manual for assistance). Then, the large, base establishment drones enter and set up base operations, of course fully operated remotely. Repair and maintenance drones then enter the scene to ensure full operation.

[–] IMongoose@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The boots on the ground are the ones controlling these drones though. And if the other boots on the ground have no counter to drones they will be decimated.

The footage coming out of Ukraine is insane. I know that this video is heavily biased towards one side but look at the kind of intelligence these drones are providing:

https://youtu.be/Ay3ocAvZeQ8

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think the Russians might have a better time of it if they stopped having the flags hover over them all the time. I’m pretty sure Americans invading Canada would suppress that shit.

[–] IMongoose@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

gd 3d spotting, it's not fair.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

Defensively drones are great since your objective isn't too claim land. If your intent is to claim land, you need boots on the ground to claim land.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Empty boots, with smoke still emanating from them.