Oh I'm not looking to exonerate ANY of these motherfuckers. If I had my druthers, they'd all fucking hang. Whether they're home-grown, or Russian sponsored, every single one of them is a fucking traitor.

Edit: honestly, the current situation in America gives me a whole new appreciation for why the French decided they needed to industrialize murder during their revolution, and invented the guillotine to do so.

Edit 2 (Treasonous Boogaloo): I truly mean ALL. Your sweet aunt, who voted for Trump because she was concerned about Fox's reporting about the migrant caravans at the border? Fucking traitor. I sincerely hope she dies. Your uncle, who's a bit of a conspiracy nut, who is an avid Alex Jones listener? I pray he gets trapped in a raging inferno. Your parents, who you cut out of your life because they kept ranting about immigrants taking American jobs at every social event? I pray they find themselves trapped in a Cybertruck that's in the middle of a battery-overload event. Everybody who voted for Trump, regardless of how many times they voted for him, deserves a traitor's death. 100% of them, zero exceptions, no backsies.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

One of the mistakes Germans (+ occupying forces) and the Austrians made after WW II was pardoning / "washing clean" Nazis after the war. Eg. the Austrian far right party FPÖ was founded by an SS member, and I'd be surprised if the AfD didn't have Nazis in its family tree as well.

People who support fascism can't be rehabilitated, except for a tiny minority.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We had the same problem after the civil war.

The slavers were kept out of power for 10 years, with excellent results.

Then political priorities shifted and they were allowed back into power.

Cue the KKK, Jim Crow, and the resumption of 'Southern Culture' (ie evil racial brutality).

The nazis were largely displaced for decades, the slaver class wasn't, and it destroyed America.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

But that's the thing: Nazis weren't really even displaced, and many kept their jobs in eg. the judiciary because they were seen as indispensable. The failure of denazification was on display especially egregiously in Austria, where you'd have people openly wearing Nazi uniforms years after the war, and they concoted the idea that they were all just unwilling victims of Nazism instead of enthusiastic participants.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For all the issues with Rowling, her allusions to Nazis in Harry Potter was fairly good. People in those stories said they were forced to do evil using a charm, and it made it almost impossible to identify "real" Nazis and the ones who "didn't know better" or "couldn't stop it." The same is true for Nazis in real life. The people will say they didn't know or just kept their heads down to avoid trouble, but how do you know if they're telling the truth?

The answer is, you can't. You can be generous and just let them all go free (and bring Nazism back later) or be aggressive and root out the problem.

I have no idea if this is on purpose, but it's made pretty clear how to solve the issue in the first place, and I'm pretty sure she doesn't agree with it. She has obvious "former Nazis" doing Nazi things in the open, but then no one does anything to stop them. How much simpler would the story have been if they had just killed the Nazis?

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