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[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 23 points 3 weeks ago (38 children)

"western diet" okay say what it actually is, they act like we dont also eat vegetables, the implication is they went full carnivore or mcdonalds type shit

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 weeks ago (35 children)

If you scroll down it at least gives you the vibe of what the "Western Diet" is:

A high-fat, low-fibre Western-style diet (WD) induces microbiome dysbiosis characterized by reduced taxonomic diversity and metabolic breadth, which in turn increases risk for a wide array of metabolic, immune and systemic pathologies.

So, the Western Diet could still be plant-based, if all the only definition is "high-fat, low-fibre"

[–] UsernameHere@lemy.lol -2 points 3 weeks ago (28 children)

Fiber = plant fiber

How can you have a plant based diet that is low in plant fiber?

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Oreos are plant based, they have roughly 0% fibre.
Hellman's plant based mayo has roughly 0% fibre.
Most Energy Drinks have 0% fibre.
A full Diaya plant-based pizza has 32-40% of your daily fibre.

"Plant based" doesn't actually mean that you eat foods that resemble plants, it just means that you don't eat foods that contain animal products.

You can still eat like a 10-year-old who's also a pothead.

[–] UsernameHere@lemy.lol -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah but that is just because the plant matter has been extracted and the sugars or whatever is left is being used as ingredients.

I’m trying to make the point that extracting ingredients from plants to make food doesn’t make those foods plant based because the plant has been removed.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The ship has sailed on plant based being derived from plants.

You might find better success using whole food plant based diet to describe it

[–] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Great, now you just need to get every single human to read that paper and agree never to use plant-based diet like they have been using commonly

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/plant-based

Based on plants; especially, of a diet, consisting mostly or wholly of foods derived from plants.

The literally people would literally like to have a word with you.

[–] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 1 points 3 weeks ago

You left out this part of your source:

It encompasses a wide range of dietary patterns that contain low amounts of animal products and high amounts of fiber-rich[3] plant products such as vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, nuts, seeds, herbs, and spices.[4][5][6]

If your example doesn’t include high amounts of fiber rich plant products, it isn’t plant-based. According to your own source.

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