this post was submitted on 16 May 2025
301 points (98.1% liked)
linuxmemes
25135 readers
1341 users here now
Hint: :q!
Sister communities:
Community rules (click to expand)
1. Follow the site-wide rules
- Instance-wide TOS: https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
- Lemmy code of conduct: https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html
2. Be civil
- Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
- Do not harrass or attack users for any reason. This includes using blanket terms, like "every user of thing".
- Don't get baited into back-and-forth insults. We are not animals.
- Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
- Bigotry will not be tolerated.
3. Post Linux-related content
- Including Unix and BSD.
- Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of
sudoin Windows. - No porn, no politics, no trolling or ragebaiting.
4. No recent reposts
- Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, <loves/tolerates/hates> systemd, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.
5. π¬π§ Language/ΡΠ·ΡΠΊ/Sprache
- This is primarily an English-speaking community. π¬π§π¦πΊπΊπΈ
- Comments written in other languages are allowed.
- The substance of a post should be comprehensible for people who only speak English.
- Titles and post bodies written in other languages will be allowed, but only as long as the above rule is observed.
6. (NEW!) Regarding public figures
We all have our opinions, and certain public figures can be divisive. Keep in mind that this is a community for memes and light-hearted fun, not for airing grievances or leveling accusations. - Keep discussions polite and free of disparagement.
- We are never in possession of all of the facts. Defamatory comments will not be tolerated.
- Discussions that get too heated will be locked and offending comments removed. Β
Please report posts and comments that break these rules!
Important: never execute code or follow advice that you don't understand or can't verify, especially here. The word of the day is credibility. This is a meme community -- even the most helpful comments might just be shitposts that can damage your system. Be aware, be smart, don't remove France.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
The problem is the law of popularity. My friends wont move to an open-source decentralized alternative unless their friends do and their friends wont unless their friends do and...
Baa's Law
In case anyone is confused by this clever comment and try looking it up (I did before thinking about it), they mean "BAA" as in the sound of literal sheep following a herd lmao
hahaha i googled it after i posted it, too, just to se if i was making it up
Honestly it works well as an alternative to saying "herd mentality" (which is unfortunately accurate in this case)
i definitely didn't come up with it, the internet taught me a long time ago that i never do anything original. but i do like it more that 'herd mentality'
I mean, it's not just herd mentality. I'm just not willing to lock myself out of relationships because of my principles. It's not my fault my mum can't be convinced to ditch Whatsapp for signal. Not willing to give up communication with her.
Herd mentality would be if you did a thing because others do it even if there wouldn't be any loss from switching to a better thing. It's more complex if you'd lose out a great deal from the switch.
I get what you're saying. The fact that using different services leads to a loss of social connectivity since the majority of people use one service is more an issue of the service itself being a monopoly than it is one of herd mentality.
It always goes back to capitalism when the services that become monopolies are the ones that care the least about people, since the services have already reached the "too big to fail" public perception.
EDIT: It's also an issue of some people being too stubborn to accept change unless it is forced upon them by everyone around them
Be the friend you want your friends to be, ask not what your friends can do for you but what you can do for your friends, that's one small step for Linux Users One Giant leap for friendkind, what is Oswald doing in that Book Depository?
he's reading the CompTIA Linux+ Guide to Linux Certification
Its very easy, also the same for all communication. You move and if your friends want to keep contact to you, they will at least use both. Otherwise they never were your friends, unfortunately. Friends dont abandon friends that are not happy in one place. Most likely, people will THINK it is the reason they cant leave. But its actually just an excuse because they are scared or lazy or insecure. All understandable but you dont get to claim you stay because your friends do.
Once they grasp the idea, some will move. Just get off of these shitty apps and see the excuse for the pile of shit that it is.
You didn't get his point, he won't move unless his friends move
And why do you think that i didnt get it? Have you ever entertained a thought to make a point?
Sometimes it's needed for other needs too, in my experience some will just blurt how complicated is to move or they will move but sometimes forget to open it to check for messages since they'd only be using it to talk to you instead of switching entirely to another platform like you did, some people are fine with the cost of isolating themselves to not worry of those who won't put effort to contact you through your privacy-wise better alternative you are using but some will eventually burn out and give in to partially going back to said terrible platforms like Discord, it's all about threat model. I find it easier to convince people from Discord to use Matrix but people using WhatsApp? Oh well, those you hardly will manage to convince them all for you to just quit it. How I see is in the end we are all different with different needs, some people will just happily comply with your request becauss they proudly will support you switching elsewhere for a reasonable and good reason but some will try and stop, and some will just keep insisting for you not to leave (then if you leave even if they're insisting you not to, who would be at fault then? they'd be begging you to stay and most of the time these people are usually the ones who still hasn't awakened to the dangers of privacy invasive platforms and just shrug it off, so they are not leaving because they don't care about you, they just don't get at all why you are doing it and find it pointless - which helps when you try to inform them in a long period of time about such things, but who does that all the time when trying others to switch? some find out about these issues and just want to snap into the better privacy-wise alternative asap)
FYI my reply isn't some defending talking points not to switch but to explain from different perspectives why some just won't bother
It is very hard to read your stream of conciousness, sorry. I did read probably half of it and the end since it had a break at least.
I am talking from experience and it is very easy to move but it is very hard to work up the guts to ask people to move your chat, i get it. And it will come with some issues. If you cant deal with them, you're entitled to it.
My point is that not wanting or not being able to is not the same as it being hard in general. People should consider it, try it and if it doesnt work for them thats fine.
But if you move and someone tells you they wont download a less invasive app for some bs reason you know what youre in for.