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Dave2D - Windows Was The Problem All Along (Lenovo Legion Go Windows 11 vs. SteamOS)
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I think this screenshot is pretty telling.
Who would have predicted, a decade ago, that the path to the actual year of the linux desktop would be taken first through the linux handheld gaming PC?
... Also LoL at SpiderMan 2, the only one that does a single frame worse, which basically at this point is just a solid indicator that game is still unoptimized as all hell.
Old man Gabe has been playing the long game, for all these years.
Ex-MSFT employee on a mission to apparently save us all from MSFT this whole time hahaha
It's not like all the alternatives to Linux aren't that good. Mac is a walled garden and Windows keeps introducing AI slop feature after AI slop feature that actually publishes your personal information
I mean, Macs are certainly a viable alternative for many people...
But if you wanna use your PC to play games?
About 25% of Steam's library runs on Mac.
Whereas if you look at ProtonDB, 81% of games are either gold or platinum on Linux in general, 86% if you throw silver in.
That's gonna be a major hangup for a lot of people who want a PC that isn't Windows.
Oh right, that and Macs are all overpriced as fuck for the average consumer, when we are about to enter into the Second Great Depression.
Every time I look at Macs I just can't get over how ridiculous they are in terms of pricing. Combined with the inability to upgrade after the fact. Buying one would just doom me to buying another a few years down the line, much better to just never get stuck in the ecosystem in the first place.
Even the steam deck is more upgradeable!
Find a better, or equally good computer than the Mac Mini M4 at the same price.
Already have, there are loads of mini PCS on the market that were comparable to the Mac mini. Just do a Google search.
Better or equally good, not comparable. I know there’s a bunch of them, but none offer better or equally performance for the price, only “comparable”.
The battery life test is even more damning. SteamOS in some cases had more than 2x better battery life.
Yeah you're right, I had mostly been looking at the difference between the steam deck and legion Go S on that chart and barely even noticed the difference between windows on the legion Go S there.
wtf happened at dead cells? I mean I almost don't believe the results
It just indicates that Dead Cells itself isn't very demanding, so the power draw in that game converges against idle draw where the issues are most apparent
Windows uses a lot of power just existing, so you can't get any of the windows handhelds down to a low power consumption. I remember when the Rig Ally first came out, the verge tested it using 5-8w of power on the steam deck, and using 16-22w of power on the Ally. Some of that is the hardware (the Deck has a really power efficient chip for low power games), but a lot of it is windows.
This explains why Windows laptops just randomly start spinning their fans. Random energy consumption -> heat production increased -> fan spins
It takes a lot of power to send half your life to the other side of the world, to MS datawarehouse.
Do we know if it's entirely coming from SteamOS? Iirc the advantages it had over Windows on the Steam Deck were not even anywhere remotely this pronounced.
What else would it be coming from on the exact same hardware?
Drivers possibly? I don't mean it as a dig at SteamOS, I'm just curious where the discrepancy is from.
This screenshot is also slightly misleading since the color scheme suggests that 5 out of 5 games run better on SteamOS then on Windows. But if you check the numbers it is only 4 out of 5 games.
By 1 fps. Could be the within the margin of error.
Interesting, I wonder if the games with a bigger improvement is more CPU bound than GPU bound
My understanding is it's mostly just the advantage of not having windows running hogging resources, so it should be a bigger gain for CPU bound games.
**Edit ** There can be performance gains from using vulkan over DirectX too, so there probably are GPU gains as well. It will depend on the game though
Without context that graph isn't brilliant because it depends on the hardware of the PC. Pretty much every game I run will be better on the steam deck than my PC because my PC is terrible.
...hence the context in the graph that points out it's on exact same hardware....
These are both on the Lenovo Legion Go S. The significance here is that there's both official OEM windows and official OEM steamOS for this device.