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TextAI is so fucked. For so many reasons. Flooding us with slop and scams, destroying the usable internet, taking people's jobs, accelerating climate change, disseminating misinformation and fascist propaganda, violating people's privacy, hampering people's ability to think critically...

It's alsk being used to sexually harrass and exploit people. If you've ever posted a pic of a human online, some fucking creep could be making porn with it right now, without your consent. Pics of you, your family, your kids. And they try to convince us there are good use cases for it. \ ‪ What I find insidious is that they sell us this evil technology via funny little trends. Make a doll of yourself, Ghibli-fy your pictures... Or convenience, ai overviews, respond to emails for you... And the normies playing with it have no fucking clue they are being used to train it, to hone it.
‪ And every time someone insists this tech is inevitable, don't fight it, it's here to stay, I just feel this pit in my stomach growing, I'm sickened by a world so apathetic and lacking in humanity. Fight this! Stop letting them kill your soul!
‪ The world doesn't have to be this way. We don't have to indulge the cruelest among us.
‪ Like do you think the people who casually play with it would feel differently knowing that by using it they are improving the technology used to generate cp? Should we just start telling them that point blank? Like, I know you probably didn't know this, buuuuut...

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[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I swear, anti-AI people like this are the modern day reactionary Luddites.

It's a pandora's box that has been opened, you can't simply just "Fight this! Stop telling them kill your soul!" - how does one fight AI exactly, by screaming into social media? Begging politicians to ban it or something even though the fundamental system we live in puts corporate interests above everything else (and for cases when they do go too far the best you can hope is a fine or some compromise)?

Also, it's important to realize that all the evils attributed to the AI at the top aren't inherent to the AI, but rather symptoms of our current system of commodity-production and wealth-accumulation. The blame is being pointed at the wrong thing here. let me give some examples:

  • Slop isn't inherent to the AI, low-effort content that's quick to produce has been the meta of online content creation if one wants to maximize clicks/ad revenue for the labor used to create the video. Scams too - AI or no AI they've always been there. Sure, with AI there's more of it but I argue the issue lies with slop and scams being viable in the first place. Same applies for the "Destroying the usable internet" point.

  • Taking people's jobs is part of technological advancement, and is a good thing given how that labor sector is now fully automated, meaning humans don't need to work on it anymore and can use their gained time freely. However we live under Capitalism where this is a negative due to how fundamentally wages and skilled labor work. Be angry at the system for being nonsensical, not at a machine that alleviates labor.

  • It's accelerating climate change like any factory, and the problem comes not from the existence of the factory, but from the commodity model that leads to overproduction, and therefore creation of more CO2 than is necessary for human life to thrive.

  • Misinformation and "Fascist" propaganda has existed without AI, and to even create it using AI there need to be people thinking about the message and spreading it - it's not something AI can create autonomously and is rather a byproduct of liberal democratic system.

  • Violation of privacy is up to social medias and governments, not AI's.

[–] topherclay@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the original luddites would mostly agree with you. They didn't destroy machines because they hated machines, they destroyed machines because it was the only way to affect the people who were accumulating the wealth and power that was previously allowing the luddites to feed themselves.

Your argument seems to be"don't hate the technology, hate the oppressors and the impressive system instead" which is the same stance the non-moddern luddites had.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Your argument seems to be"don't hate the technology, hate the oppressors and the impressive system instead" which is the same stance the non-moddern luddites had.

Thats also one of the reasons we're fed propaganda that the luddites wanted to destroy the technology instead of the oppressors wielding it. Gotta poison the minds while we're young so we don't realize they had the right idea.

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