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That's what intersectionality is about, and why fascists focus on driving wedges between groups
Not everything is about fascists.
You're right, it's also about the capitalists who put them in power.
Capitalists don't really benefit under Fascism, so I don't see why a true Capitalist would support a fascist and help them gain power.
There is no such thing as “true capitalism”. The perfect company sells no product, pays no tax’s, and employees no one, yet continues to make money anyway. These greasy fucks don’t want to be competitive in the market, they just want money. And will use gov forces to crush it if possible.
Capitalists advocate against Government intervention in the markets. To a capitalist the only laws that should exist are those that protect people, property, and assets allowing for free and open trade amongst individuals and corporations.
You are getting down voted because you should read Marx before commenting about capitalism on Lemmy haha.
Hell he should read Adam Smith cause he's got some ideas that ain't in there.
AHAHAHHA, why the fuck would a capitalist not lobby the government to restrict a regulate the market in ways that are favorable to them, and detrimental to their competition? It’s literally just another leaver to pull to make more money. They don’t give a fuck about the philosophy of it. The only thing that matters to a capitalist is making more money, by any means necessary. Deluding yourself of anything else is insanity.
Not only do capitalists benefit from fascism, as history has consistently shown, but fascism is the end result of capitalism.
Capitalism is an Economic structure, Fascism is a Political ideology. Fascism does not benefit a Capitalist because it imposes heavy regulation on the free market to benefit themselves which is anti Capitalist.
Who on earth told you the free market had anything to do with capitalism? LOL.
Thank you for demonstrating your lack of good faith early.
Sure buddy.
Feel free to explain how this is a good faith comment.
You are coming at this with econ 101 level understandings.
The people you're arguing against here know the text book definition of capitalism.
The issue is you are talking about some kind of "Adam Smith capitalism" but everyone else is using the term to mean what it actually is in practice.
If you want to understand this point of view, the quickest way is to read Marx.
Yeah but the choice is between socialism and fascism, and capitalists stand to lose a lot under socialism.
Capitalists lose under both Socialism and Fascism. Neither Political structure benefits a pure Capitalist because both systems impose heavy regulation on the free market which is anti Capitalist.
Capitalism and Fascism do not work together. Capitalism and Socialism do not work together.
The prior because Fascists impose heavy regulation on the markets to benefit themselves, and the latter because Socialism is a Socioeconomic ideology which replaces the need for Capitalism within it.
The argument is that capitalism directly and basically infallibly leads to fascism. It's not supposed to, but it's a consistent emergent behaviour of the system.
Feel free to demonstrate this with some data, and don't ignore the fact that Communism and Socialism has never produced anything other than Fascism while Capitalism is the economic model most used by Democratic countries.
I don't need to ignore any facts about communism or socialism because I didn't bring them up and they are immaterial to this conversation. I don't know why you even brought that up here.
Its a very complex topic, but honestly also self evident if you look around. The successful EU/Scandinavian countries who are "capitalist" are also falling into fascism as we speak. The only reason they held it off so long was laws that inhibit capitalism from doing as much damage as it wants to.
The system of capitalism encourages (almost demands) antisocial, sociopathic behaviour to emerge. The ultimate result of this is always the same.
This is too big of a topic to start an explanation from scratch in this thread. But it's also something that is very well discussed online and written about a lot. This isn't my idea personally.
I bring it up because that is what you responded to originally.
What system do you propose?
Assuming I am unread instead of engaging me on the topic does not make a good faith argument against what I have said.
I'm not assuming you're unread. You are demonstrating that pretty clearly.
Pot meet kettle.
Have a good one.
Fascism still has rich business owners, at least until it collapses, and most of them just move to safer waters when that happens. Whether it not they are actual capitalists is the question. They were at the start, but then once in control of a market most of them are aimed at becoming monopolists, and fascism is cheapest way to get to a monopoly.
Tell that to communism.
I think you need to read some more history about fascism my friend. That "pure" capitalist you talk about has never existed.
On the other hand, capitalists were essential to Hitler's rise to power, and the likes of IG Farben and Bayer profited greatly during the reign of the Nazi's.
Now we see the same thing with the likes of Bezos, Zuckerberg and Musk installing Trump, and abusing their influence to completely deregulate the markets they are in (e.g. banning any regulation on AI by states).
This specifically is though.