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EDIT: It’s honestly hard to believe how intense and personal some of the hostility in this thread is. I understand objecting to something when there is a valid concern, especially about ethics or consent. But this is something else entirely. It feels less like people are engaging with the actual work and more like they are reacting to the mere presence of AI in any form, regardless of context.

I don’t think LLMs are universally good or bad. I think they are very very bad at a large number of things, especially when people try to use them as shortcuts in places where care, originality, or expertise (or human understanding and subsequent empathy) are required. But they are also extremely effective in other use cases when used with skill, intention, and thought. That is the position I hold. It is nuanced. It does not dismiss the criticisms people have raised, but it also does not treat every use of the technology as automatically unethical or invalid.

What I did was not a random one-line prompt into a generator. I gave deliberate, specific instructions about pose, anatomy, style, and tone. I gave feedback. I adjusted the inputs. I guided it through a process that produced something unique and original. The result is not a collage of stolen images. It is not a copy of anything that has ever existed. That is important context, and it is constantly ignored in these arguments.

There is a real difference between raising concerns in good faith and launching personal attacks at people who use a tool in a considered way. The people jumping into these threads with moral outrage are not engaging in objective analysis. They are repeating talking points as if AI art is some kind of singular personal enemy. It often feels like they are reacting based on something they heard someone else say, rather than thinking critically about what is in front of them.

And this is happening in a community that is supposed to be supportive of neurodivergent people. That is the part I find most maddening. There is room here for discussion and for disagreement. But instead of debate, we get judgment, condescension, rabid hostility, and attempts to shame people for trying something different. That is not the kind of environment anyone should want to foster.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I was honestly hoping the Lemmy anti-AI knee-jerk responses would not have bled over into this community, but clearly that hope was in vain.

[–] Suffa@lemmy.wtf 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

AI haters love harassing people. Sorry you had to go through this.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago

I appreciate you. 🤜🤛

[–] msprout@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Homie you're gonna face that everywhere, not just Lemmy. GenAI is built on the intellectual property theft of thousands of artists. Nobody is going to applaud you for taking an unethical shortcut.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 16 hours ago

Nothing ethical about property rights.

Human culture for everyone, fuck the multinational corporations who fought to make it so sacred for their profits.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reality check: Most people DGAF. Check out the upvotes on the post to see how many people care.

[–] msprout@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Look at the ratio between our two comments.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's expected. It's mostly the vocal ones who are diving into the comments

[–] msprout@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

Sure. Whatever you need to tell yourself to get through the day is fine with me.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, that's strange. You said these were people who didn't give a fuck, but actually it sounds like they never knew in the first place.

Never knew what, exactly?

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

come on over to db0 and hang out with us! would be welcome here. good comic.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How…do I do that exactly 🤷‍♂️

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 16 hours ago

Honestly from my experience just stick to !imageai@sh.itjust.works, we can at least ban the AIdiots who come to harass there.

dbzer0 comms run by that Mushroom person are friendly, but they’re very niche. Other dbzer0 comes will be met with the exact comments as here.

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

lemmy.dbzer0.com i believe, browse the communities tab and you will see a lot of comms where this would be a welcome addition; such as the stable diffusion and bot art communities.

you can use your same account that you have here, as well! no need for a new account unless you want to.

edit: small note you’ll still need to login through your original instance if you choose to keep this account. kind of confusing as a user, i know. the fediverse is great but i think the UX, like a lot of open source, is quite lacking.