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[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 36 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (24 children)

Why is pickpocketing and related just like, not a thing in the US?

I call bullshit. This is the country where everybody says, don't confront or they'll shoot/stab you. I bet many other countries have more vigilantism. This is the country, where everybody has guns "to rise against tyranny" and lets a tyranny roam free. This is the country where school shootings are almost a daily event. Majority of these people won't even confront people that litter.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago (20 children)

Why is pickpocketing and related just like, not a thing in the US?

I call bullshit. This is the country where everybody says, don't confront or they'll shoot/stab you.

Well, you might have your answer right there. Pickpockets risk getting shot or stabbed, so the risk/reward maths out poorly for them

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (7 children)

Three American cities are in the top ten worldwide in fear of getting pickpocketed.

Source: https://matadornetwork.com/read/worst-us-cities-for-pickpockets/

Pickpocketing is happening in every major US city with numbers rising from year to year:

So US citizens thinking they're superior when they arent.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/05/pickpocket-smartphones/585997/

https://havengear.com/blog/pickpocketing/

But in the end, I believe it's the car centered cities that keep numbers relatively low. No puclic transport and less people at one place= less pickpockets.

[–] YouShouldSeeMyAlt@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Density and cultural norms in general are definitely a factor.

If I was out and about in my normal area where I live in the US and someone got close enough to pick my pocket I'd be on high alert because they are way inside the normal personal space bubble here.

That 0.0 stat is really helping your argument

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

less people at one place= less pickpockets.

Checks out. Las Vegas, Orlando, and NYC are all huge tourist destinations. That's where you'll find the most pickpockets.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Also Vegas doesnt surprise me in the least. It's utterly unwalkable except in the hospitality areas where a lot of people are drunk and headed to or from casinos.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

If I were to choose one place in the world to be a pickpocket, Vegas would be very high on the list. It's a perfect combination.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Every last thing on that list is a major tourist destination.

Maybe we're looking at this wrong. Maybe it's not that the US is less likely to be pickpocketed, just for size you're less likely to be in a pickpocketable area.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

The other part of the comment was that Americans drive everywhere, thus there are less opportunities to pickpocket. Tourists walk around a lot.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Pickpocketing is happening in every major US city with numbers rising from year to year: So US citizens thinking they're superior when they arent.

Thank you for your screenshot of a study about "concern over pickpocketing". Europe still proceeds to take more of the top 10 spots.

[–] livingheart@sh.itjust.works -3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

alright, so it's one in east asia, one in turkey, five in europe, and three in the usa. the europe/usa ratio roughly matches the population ratio. the point stands that it's still very comparable by population (which a top ten cities list is not suited to describing)

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Ok but the US points in the pickpocket column are pretty low compared to Europe's. Other forms of stealing are plenty common in America, it's just that we're a lot more likely to get shown a gun and asked to empty our pockets ourselves than have the thief covertly do it for us.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

USA has more land mass by leagues, so... Europe is still kicking ass based on area and probably on population, too. Three big US cities almost certainly doesnpt equal up to many Euro cities...

Your attempts to twist this narrative are hilarious, but it's also so, so sad...

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 27 points 10 hours ago

Three American cities are in the top ten worldwide in fear of getting pickpocketed.

this is an opinion poll of tourists, not a statistic on crime data.

There's ways to mug and rob tourists in cars. You flag them down like you're asking for help (I was taught to not stop as a teenager because of how common this was), or you cause a minor fender bender in a beater although that's more commonly an insurance scam method. Growing up, rental cars in Florida had special "rental" plates, until the government changed the law to make rental cars have the same plates because criminals had been using them to target tourists (cops did too, and they weren't that thrilled by the change).

TLDR: Orlando is one of the worst car dependent hell holes and it still made the list because Florida Man can be clever when it comes to stealing from tourists.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

See, they think that pickpocketing isn't an issue in the US because they have far more pressing issues.

Over here we talk about pickpocketing, because it's pretty much the worst crime anyone ever encounters in their real life. You probably wouldn't care much about that if there's multiple school shootings a day and people can just stage insurrections and nobody cares.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Ask the women about that take

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Crime perception is derived mostly via news reports. Most people are affected by crime maybe 1-2 times in their lives (of course, this number differs greatly with some people being affected by crime all the time, but the median is very low).

That means, your perception what kinds of crimes are how prevalent is mostly shaped by media.

Media has a very limited bandwidth, so of course only the most sensationalist kinds of crimes are reported on. If there's a school shooting almost every day with 31000 victims in total per year, the likelihood of something as petty as pickpocketing making the news is very low.

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