MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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Because despite who he is as a person his video essays are quality content.
He's called for innocent people to be killed
So nuance just goes right over your head? Fair enough.
What nuance is there for wanting innocent civilians dead?
Exactly, no nuance with you. The nuance here is with what he has said. The nuance here is that him saying something we don't agree with doesn't mean his video is somehow bad.
You can't separate the art from the artist when the artist is a political commentator, which he is, and he has said some very hateful and extremist things.
You can't agree with every opinion a political commentator has, so according to you no political commentator should be listened to.
How about this. You tell me who I should listen to you and I'll tell you how you're wrong.
It's a bit of a strange position to take. You can read some of his bigotry here: 1 2
Like he's an anti-semitic nutter who regularly denies atrocities and genocides, he promotes racism, he calls for nations to be nuked, he harasses rape victims, he doxxes teenagers and also rape victims. If you want to argue that an extremist bigot can make points that an everyman can agree with, then surely you have to do the same for the other extremists, such as Alex Jones, Nick Fuentes and Cadence Owens? It's only fair afterall.
Or is it because you find yourself agreeing with him?
No, I don't agree with everything Bad Empanada says. I disagree with his extremist takes. But unlike you just because I don't like some of the things he says or does I don't instantly think he is wrong in everything he says. When it comes to the Uyghur "vocational camps" I think he has a valid take, that China is essentially doing a genocide and they're doing a pretty poor job at covering it up.
You don't think the Uyghurs are in concentration camps? They're well-documented and corroborated by multiple sources and legal precedents. China themselves have said they're "re-education camps"
For the love of god get over yourself and what the entirety of the video already. You're linking an article about the same thing Bad Empanada talks about, except he goes more in depth with actual sources to back up what he's talking about (which the BBC article doesn't do).
Me, you and Bad Empanada are all in agreement on what is happening in Xinjiang but because you don't like Bad Empanada and you probably also don't like me (because I dared to link Bad Empanada) you seem to think we're in disagreement. We're not. Don't do a Destiny and decide what (or who) is right or wrong based on how you feel about things.
I don't know you.
But I would like to know more about what nuance is used for using a nuke to blow up a country.
I've already addressed what I meant by nuance and I'm not going to repeat myself. At this point I'm just going to assume you're doing this in bad faith, so I'm not going to respond again until you start acting like a normal person.
okay, your choice