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[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

DB0 is becoming a tankie instance.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They seem to regard solidarity with tankies as more important than solidarity with genocided groups, at the least.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Online edgelord behaviour.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There was a time when Holodomor and Uyghur denial was removed whenever a tankie posted it on Dbzer0.

Apparently that time is long past, and the admins now regard Holodomor and Uyghur genocide denial as perfectly kosher, and even support it.

I guess pro-genocide posters give more satisfying asspats than anti-genocide posters.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is kind of weird to suddenly be a tankie. I wonder what happened.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Finally felt comfortable going mask-off, I suppose

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Maybe I've just been OOTL, but this whole thing has really saddened me. Because until now, I had really positive feelings towards DB0. I thought they were a good leftist instance with a focus on freedom and anti-authoritarianism. Their actions in the other thread (and, notably, where they have chosen to remain inactive), along with comments in this thread, have completely flipped that on its head. It's feeling no better than ML.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

For the past year or so, I've noticed a significant number of db0 users and admins downvoting posts that are otherwise widely accepted as tankie. Often posts mentioning Davels, lemmy.ml admin and proud tankie, are downvoted by the db0 admins.

They also regularly target specific comments and threads that are linked from their snark community. Targeting comments and threads that are critical of tankies, while commenting and manipulating their own posts that like to give Tankies the benefit of doubt, or otherwise entirely supportive of such extremism.

I called them out on it, and they acted very predictably, doubling down on pro-authoritarian and tankie drivel.

The admins are very quiet when it comes to criticising tankies. They even have prominent tankies, such as Cowabees, Diva, and even Davel, actively engaging in their threads and Matrix channels. They like to call us a nazi bar because one single user said the word "degenerate", so using their own nonsense, that means they're a tankie bar, full and through.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

also @TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works, I plan on making a full rundown of the events, but unlike db0, I don't leave anything out.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

a significant number of db0 users and admins downvoting posts that are otherwise widely accepted as tankie. Often posts mentioning Davels, lemmy.ml[1] admin and proud tankie, are downvoted by the db0 admins

This sounds like evidence against the claim, does it not? If they're downvoting tankie content, that makes them less likely to be tankies, no?

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Downvoting this community. They're upvoting tankies on their own.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh I see. Downvoting times that tankies got called out.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Consistently. If there are downvotes, it almost always comes from db0

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

DB0 honestly needs to be recognized as the instance that upgraded the tankie triad to a tankie tetrad.

Tetrad sounds cooler too.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

On Lemmy "leftist" almost always boils down to tankie

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

It always was.