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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 141 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

tl;dr you can still "sideload" via adb.

This is so incredibly inconvenient as to be meaningless.

[–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 58 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

It's not completely meaningless because if it's truly the only option I'm going to be using it until I eventually replace my current phone with one with an unlocked bootloader.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 33 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm afraid that won't help. There will be even fewer people developing apps specifically for the 0.01% of us using custom ROMs.

[–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

They're already developing the apps for the 1% of us not just using proprietary apps from the play store. I don't think this just kills open source app development.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's not who we're talking about. We're talking about the 0.1% who have custom ROMs.

It won't kill it completely but it will severely hurt it. The more complicated it becomes, the smaller the userbase becomes.

Apps like Syncthing have already discontinued development due to Google shenanigans + lack of users. That'll only get worse as the userbase shrinks.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

There are plenty of people developing apps that require root, and users who run those are already jumping through a million hoops of cat and mouse to keep their fucking mcdonalds app detecting it so they can get cheaper coffees and free fries.

Like seriously, wtf McDonalds, your app is like the ultimate root/safetynet/device id detection tool, I don't think there exists even a banking app that is as hard to fool.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

When my current phone dies I'll be buying a flip phone.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Guess what!? Those are all Android too!

[–] balder1991@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

But I guess those don’t have Google Play or anything Google, they’re more like a limited Android.

[–] yessikg@fedia.io 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Guess what!? KaiOS is Android!

[–] yessikg@fedia.io 0 points 4 weeks ago

They can go back to being a Linux OS much easier than anybody else

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

Rimjob_steve moment

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

It will be stupid, but I presume there will be a rise in desktop apps or webapps that require you to only plug the phone in and it will handle the rest.

[–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, if something like Obtanium needs to run on my desktop instead of my phone and I have to plug it in every once in a while, that's not the end of the world.

[–] balder1991@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

I think adb can also work over Wi-Fi, just like Android Studio can connect to the phone and build and install without plugging it.

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

There are already android apps that allow you to ADB into your own phone without root, so you could VERY EASILY just make an app store that utilises that, you only need to install the app from desktop once

[–] dukatos@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

good luck updating all your apps that way...

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 4 weeks ago
[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 weeks ago

We already have to do that to install older apps. It's inconvenient, but not as bad as having to boot up an ancient phone every time you need to use the app.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Perhaps someone could write an 'adb loopback' app -- get that into the official app store, and said app would then squirt other .apk files through adb on the phone to itself, thus sideloading it.

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

ADB loopback apps already exist, such as Shizuku

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

As far as I know, ADB needs to be run on another device which is plugged into the phone.

I suppose one could write a script/app that detects the device is plugged in, and automatically looks for and installs updates using adb. That would be the least amount of friction.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

I think you can run ADB on another Android device, so maybe an Obtainium+ADB device that stays at home.