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[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don’t believe they can. They need 60 votes in the Senate.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Except when they used reconciliation to pass 2 budget bills in 2021 when Biden became president, and 2 in 2017 when Trump became president. They use reconciliation to bypass the filibuster after 20 hours thereby allowing just 51 votes to pass budgetary measures.. so long as no extraneous non budgetary items are added to it, those individually would need 60 and be filed separately at that point.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I may be wrong, but I believe you're talking about two different types of legislation that have different rules.

The Republicans have the votes for a simple majority, but I don't think this bill counts as a reconciliation and would require new changes to the senate's rules (which may or may not be possible).

I could be wrong, but if I was, why haven't they just pushed it forward?

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Because they had to wait till October 1st, and they thought they could use it as another way to complain about anyone left of them and cause more rift/hate. Saying, we'll send it through reconciliation tomorrow doesn't sound as good as the "radical left extremists are terrorizing our government" to them. So they will get everything they wanted, with only 51 votes, and the ability to weaponize it. And the Democrats and what not who never got to the negotiating tables will be blamed for not magically stopping something nor doing "enough."

Have you heard about Kamala not in government anymore's latest pizza topping? It's like she's out of touch!

Edit: They've only really passed budgets on time 4 times since 1974. (When they implemented the ability to reconcile budgets to bypass filibusters) https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/10/01/congress-has-long-struggled-to-pass-spending-bills-on-time/

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Sure but the point is that these asshole Republicans don't want to use the reconciliation process because then they can't say, well the Demoncrats voted for it so it's all their fault you uneducated white people don't have "affordable" healthcare and why your white racist Charlie Kirk Grandma had no Medicare/Medicaid and got kicked out of her nursing home that their Obese Oligarchy Bill said to do.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They already did that in July.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So they can just do it again.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Now they can. They couldn't before the financial year rolled over as of today.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So what your saying is that the government shutdown is do to the Republicans inaction.

Shit the entire concept of government shutdowns started in the U.S. during Ronald Regans presidency when he vetoed a spending bill. They basically invented government shutdowns to weaponize the ability to hold basic needs from the people and call it legal to get what they want.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

So what your saying is that the government shutdown is do to the Republicans inaction.

It is. Just clarifying why they didn't just "do it again".