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[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social -4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"acshully the hegemonic god idol agrees with me"

fuck jesus

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Did you know that sometimes the bible actually sometimes doesn't command genocide. Isn't it so uplifting and worth defending?"

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Almost as if it’s a compilation of books by multiple authors with multiple perspectives, and treating it like it’s supposed to be a cohesive text that’s supposed to have a single message makes it impossible to understand as a historical text…

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And yet millions of people insist on trying :(

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It just annoys me when atheists do the same thing. “The Bible condones genocide.” Parts of the Bible do, and parts of the Bible don’t. Picking and choosing which parts of the Bible you think are more accurate is good critical analysis. We know some of Paul’s letters were forgeries, we are pretty sure about the agendas of some of the authors of the Pentateuch…

So many take a lazy Reddit tier atheist “it’s all stupid and useless” that is just so fucking boring than struggling with what the document actually is. Because it is fascinating. Parts of it are inspiring and compelling, parts of it are boring instructions for constructing shit, some of it is brutal and evil. But it’s much more than “lol stupid goat herders.”

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ok.

The thing about literary analysis is you can do it if you want to. But expecting everyone else to also do it to your satisfaction is a recipe for frustration.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s not just literary analysis - it’s historical.

A text being historical does not mean it is a 100% true telling of the events. That is the entire point of analyzing your sources.

Herodotus tells us that a guy got a person escort of dolphins to port when some treacherous sailors threw him overboard and other insane bullshit. That probably didn’t happen. However, he is really really useful if we want to understand the rise of the Achaemenid Empire and pretty accurate there.

If I want to analyze the beliefs and politics of post Exilic period Hebrews, the Bible is an excellent resource. Even things that are mostly mythological are extremely useful. Eg, King David was a historical figure - there is independent corroborating evidence of this. The stories in the Bible about him are probably mostly mythological because they were written a few centuries after his rule, but they are useful in that they indicate a desire to create a shared cultural history - to unify the tribes into one polity.

Every time the Bible comes up on lemmy, it feels like everyone here must have failed every high school history class they took. History has a different methodology than science does, because it is a different field and way of understanding.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah... people online prefer easy cliches and pithy remarks to original thought and effort.

Its not just the bible that gets this treatment, its literally everything.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The hegemonic god idol is capital. The other "religions" change from place to place and have very little actual power compared to the state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion